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    highnmighty is offline Associate Member
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    Just got back from the Endo & Nodda!!!

    Ok just got back from the endo doctor because my test levels are extremely low from a previous cycle. Bottom line is the doc sent me home saying my test levels will recover naturally in 6 month time frame. She told me to stop taking Nolvadex (which I've been on the last few weeks). She said HCG will not produce test but increase sperm count. My question to you guys, is it too late to take HCG? Again, I'm currently running Nolva @ 40mg ed & Tribulus 1gr ed.

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    I told you she might send you packin the other day didn't I?

    Start taking clomid in the standard PCT form with 20 mg nolva ed, at the end of this start taking some Trib and zma, you will be fixed up faster than 6 months.
    Last edited by shortie; 09-28-2005 at 12:34 PM.

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    That endocrinologist, like most, is totally incompetent in dealing with hypogonadism. The comment about hCG proves that. I would have loved to been there when she said that so that I could ask her to explain the pharmacological effects of hCG. What a dolt. You should post her name to warn others.

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    I strongly oppose the use of tribulus. I've seen men for which the tribulus does elevate their testosterone , but they still have all the symptoms of low testosterone , and are then denied treatment because their testosterone levels appear normal.

    Nothing beats the SERMs in recovering the HPTA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shortie
    I told you she might send you packin the other day didn't I?

    Start taking clomid in the standard PCT form with 20 mg nolva ed, at the end of this start taking some Trib and zma, you will be fixed up faster than 6 months. Also, 1 gram trib-I take only the reccomended amount and that is 6000mg ed so add some more to your intake.
    LOL... You were so right!!! How many mg's a day do I need of Clomid and how long? DO you recommend taking some HCG as well or will the clomid & nolva be sufficient?

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    Really funny to be honest, guy does a goof cycle, no pct as I read it and wants an endo to give him some supps, not gonna happen man, DO PCT!

    Test results back....

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    3 weeks on clomid day 1-300 mg; 100 mg ed after that for the remainder. Tossing in 20 mg Nolva Ed won't hurt.

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    Doctors in general, are utterly unreliable.

    Do your own research. The internet has given every individual the opportunity to be their own doctor. The information that doctors have, is available to you as well--USE IT.

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    Yeah I know I fucked up... Thanks for throwing it back in my face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by highnmighty
    Yeah I know I fucked up... Thanks for throwing it back in my face.
    LOL! Glad I could be there for ya. But if you follow that PCT regime you should come out of the slump man-good luck.

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    Ok thanks!

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    Highnmighty, just curious.... did the endo examine your balls and was she good looking??

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    dont use tribulus everday bro..u might get low test levels instead...use it only on w/o days or take it 4 days on 2 days off

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