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    Quote Originally Posted by thegodfather
    Ok one, if they smelled weed and then they searched the entire vehicle and all its contents, and found NO weed, then the search was bad and anything resulting from it should be thrown out of court, I would focus heavily on that point. The search was initiated under that pretense, have your lawyer rip them apart on the stand. Also, having no front license plate is not probable cause to search a vehicle, which is why he would have needed to say he smelled weed, because probable cause does not protect "hunches." If they confiscate anything on the spot, you need to be issued a summons ON THE SPOT to appear in court, it looks like that wasn't done, another instance of negligence on their part. Next, they need to provide you with a full inventory of the contents of your bag, this is done to prove that they didn’t steal anything from it, if they cannot produce an inventory, then you can actually sue them. I'd say you have a pretty good shot at having this entire case thrown out of court because of the negligence of the officers, any good lawyer should make them look like fumbling idiots on the stand.. Good luck bro!
    Not true. Drugs are often sold with other drugs, so the dog could have hit on some weed that was stored with the gear...detectable drugs do not have to be found...

    Are you a pre-law or criminal justice student or something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TADOLFI
    Doesn't false positive have to do with stats on the dog? Like how many times it has alerted , but nothing was found?
    A false positive is when a handler gives the command to search and the dog simply acts as though he has detected something (usually by sitting next to or scratching at a compartment) in order to recieve praise from it's handler.

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    That helps clear it up - thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwoleDave
    Not true. Drugs are often sold with other drugs, so the dog could have hit on some weed that was stored with the gear...detectable drugs do not have to be found...

    Are you a pre-law or criminal justice student or something?
    pre-law...i didnt say that the search WILL be thrown out of court, i said it SHOULD...meaning his lawyer may have a slight chance at having it tossed out on that alone, however if not, the rest of the officers gross negligence to follow the proper precedures of confiscating evidence and issuing him a summons should do...honestly the dude just needs to get an amazing lawyer and let him come up with some great bullshit, im not a lawyer so dont take anything I say as solid advice, my knowledge of the law is limited at this point...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwoleDave
    And cops dont train their dogs to hit on anything as 305guy says...
    Are you speaking for all cops here. How do you know what every K-9 officer does with their dog. Or let me guess, you think all Police officers are honest and straight laced.

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    the reason i had the gear on me was that i was moving otherwise it wouldnt have been there. it was still retarded, i wasnt even on cycle at the time, but the cops said he knew i was on it when he saw us. and said he knew a guy that did real well in wrestling then got on steroids and tried to kill himself and his parents. and that i should be careful and watch out for suicidal thoughts in myself. i told him he watches too much sportscenter. im currently on cycle right now and im staying on until my court date. or till they tell me i have to pisstest or whatever, the shits still gonna be in my bloodstream though, deca stays in it for like 18 months or somethin. right now im on week 5 and im not wanting to get off, just gonna try and make some more gains before i am forced to do what i have to do.

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    the cops will have the proper paperwork done (even if they didnt do it at the time). He prob. signed somthing saying what they took the date, etc....

    department procedure dictates issuance of a summons and since there was no court date, it is quite acceptable to not issue one.

    The easiest thing to do would be to just plead guilty (or no contest if the judge lets u). It would prob. be probation plus a fine. if you're the type that has kept out of trouble this long... just take the guilty plea.

    Step 1, turn yourself in (but call a bondsman first so he'll be there to bond u out)

    Step 2, show up for your first court date WITHOUT a lawyer. Ask the judge what the sentence will be IF u plead guilty. If you can live w/ the penalties, plead guilty, if u dont like what he has to say, plead not guilty. If u plead not guilty, you'll get a trial date about 3 months into the future.

    Step 3, if necessary, get an attorney, and go to trial

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    Quote Originally Posted by 305GUY
    Are you speaking for all cops here. How do you know what every K-9 officer does with their dog. Or let me guess, you think all Police officers are honest and straight laced.
    Think about this... Dogs have to get qualified once a year. It's strict. If cops TRAINED their dogs to hit on nothing, they would fail qualification and there wouldnt be police dogs....numb nuts

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    they took my entire bag when they got it. my protein, creatine, vitamins, tribulus, gloves, straps, weight logs, mp3 player also took abottle of clomid and cialis from ar-r but i guess cuz they are non controlled drugs im not getting in trouble for them. they didnt issue me a damn thing. they said i could pick up my stuff on the following tuesday. i went in and they gave me my straps, gloves and mp3 player back and kept everything else. they did fill out an inventory of the things they gave me back on that day, but nothing else in the bag. and they did not give me a copy of anything. i still have no papers or nothin from them.

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    dude, clomid and cialis are controled drugs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwoleDave
    Think about this... Dogs have to get qualified once a year. It's strict. If cops TRAINED their dogs to hit on nothing, they would fail qualification and there wouldnt be police dogs....numb nuts
    Hey ASSWIPE with my numb nuts in your mouth! i could care less what you THINK.. i've seen it for myself with my own to eyes. Dogs aren't perfect and neither are their PIG handlers. Alright cool guy.......................

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    Quote Originally Posted by 305GUY
    Hey ASSWIPE with my numb nuts in your mouth! i could care less what you THINK.. i've seen it for myself with my own to eyes. Dogs aren't perfect and neither are their PIG handlers. Alright cool guy.......................
    NO crap.. "dogs arent perfect and neither are their PIG handlers.", i can agree with that. I dont contest that.

    But they still dont train their dogs for false positives...

    NUMB NUTS!

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    i've read they werent, and figured i'd geti n more trouble than i am if they were.

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    i meant about my cialis, clomid, and clen that they took from me as well, not being controlled substances. they are non controlled substances.

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    even if you get charged the max, it is for personal use and the charges will get lowered. waaay back in my dumbass days i got caught up selling shrooms on school campus and got 9months probation, this was felony sales and even worse since it was at school..... try to fight it, but i wouldn't sweat it if you got punished.. you have a lot of angles to fight it, make sure you tel the cops nothing and your lawyer everything.. best advice i can give is to never talk, that's how a lot of ppl get taken down because they are scared.. they will try to scare the sh1t out of you, but this is usually because they don't have enough or want more on you..

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    call rick collins perhaps..... try to defend urself dude..

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGSNOR
    i meant about my cialis, clomid, and clen that they took from me as well, not being controlled substances. they are non controlled substances.
    Dude, cialis, clomid, and clen ARE controled substances... u only get them without a perscription because they are for "research". What most people dont realize is that the court will look at the "intent" of the user, and they will pretty much see through your "research" excuse, unless you've got a damn lab in your house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwoleDave
    Dude, cialis, clomid, and clen ARE controled substances... u only get them without a perscription because they are for "research". What most people dont realize is that the court will look at the "intent" of the user, and they will pretty much see through your "research" excuse, unless you've got a damn lab in your house.
    Most prescription drugs are NOT controlled substances. controlled substances are things that are scheduled. Clomid and cialis are not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGSNOR
    yah neither one of us even smoke cigarrettes. never even smoked weed. just pisses me off, i could be doin crack, heroin, be a pothead, rob banks, hurt people and shit but i dont, i lift go home, eat and sleep. yet im the one with a 10grand bond on my hands and anyhone caught with weed or X gets a fuckin slap on the wrist. i didnt even see the dog alert, they just told us he did and made us get out of the car. he did sit down when they looked at my bag. i think it had to have been my tribulus pills or my multivitamins that alerted him.
    I wonder if tribulus could be what he picked up on as that used to be the old spanish fly formula for date rape.. oh and trust me if your caught with X its not a slap ont he wrist. be glad its juice you got caught with. An attorney should be able to get you no jail time and minimal probation.

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    Get an attorney, tell your folks-come clean with those that matter, but not the police-they just want a win, they will fvk you. Once more for emphasis GET AN ATTORNEY NOW!

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    i agree getting legal andvice from anyone on here should be taken with a grain of salt. Granted we all want to help..each state laws are different and none of us are drug attorneys.. My buddy got caught with a kilo and 15k X. He walked with 5 yrs probation.. One thing saved him his attorney said. He never said a word but give me my attorney. cost him 25k but avoided mandatory 15yr sentence..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deezuhl
    i agree getting legal andvice from anyone on here should be taken with a grain of salt. Granted we all want to help..each state laws are different and none of us are drug attorneys.. My buddy got caught with a kilo and 15k X. He walked with 5 yrs probation.. One thing saved him his attorney said. He never said a word but give me my attorney. cost him 25k but avoided mandatory 15yr sentence..
    Betcha he would say it was the best 25k he ever spent!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGSNOR
    i meant about my cialis, clomid, and clen that they took from me as well, not being controlled substances. they are non controlled substances.
    And bigs, they are controlled substances, they just don't meet class 3 criteria, so while they are illegal to posses without a script they are rarely prosecuted. Do what ever you can to keep this out of the range of being a felony, don't screw the rest of your life over being too cheap or too scared to get a good lawyer or your folks involved if you need them-long godamn time to be branded a criminal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGSNOR
    i didnt consent to a search, the only thing i consented to was that they could call a drug dog in to walk around the car. and i didnt even consent to that, the guy that was driving his car did. when they couldnt find anything after they tore the car apart thats when they went for the bags.
    i totally understand ur dilema. people gotta realize that just because their cops doesnt mean they are totally legal. i, personally being a retired crimainal can tell you that they "just want to get you in the system". i have recently realized that a cop cannot give u a PUBLIC INTOXICATION charge until they tell you to" step outta the car ". i have to agree with everybody else GET A GOOD LAWYER!! i also agree with u and these other people on here when it comes to crack pushers and child molesters get a slap on the wrist. to hell with them!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by symatech
    First get a good lawyer, and talk to them. They will probably advise you to turn yourself in. You'll need $1000 to bond out, make sure someone you know has it since you can't bond yourself out. If you get a lawyer who is familiar with this then you probably will win in court and not do any real time or pay many fines. Either way you are looking at lawyer and court fees. Get to a good lawyer ASAP, you do not want to wait until you are arrested.
    I totally agree GET A LAWYER, sit down and take advice from him. hes the only one that can really help you out with this situation...Then turn yourself in when your ready... you said 2 counts of possession, what exactly does it say.?
    The amount you had was so small bro.. Do your best with getting a lawyer and fight it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwoleDave
    Think about this... Dogs have to get qualified once a year. It's strict. If cops TRAINED their dogs to hit on nothing, they would fail qualification and there wouldnt be police dogs....numb nuts
    You are so wrong there buddy..

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    I have often wondered about the dogs being able to sniff gear out, but I think regardless if the dog hits on your stuff, it is probably still good enough to get your ass.

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    Listen, if the police took 6-8 months to get your stuff tested, then I have a hard time believing they are completely unreasonable hardasses.

    You need a good lawyer. Yes, it would help if this lawyer had experience with your situation, however, it may help more to get a good lawyer who can negotiate with the DA. I would be highly surprised if the DA would want to take a case like this to court unless he has nothing better to do. This screams of settlement. Can you say community service??

    Get a lawyer and stop sweating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3Vandoo
    next time shoot the cops, you'll probably end up with a clever sentence than roids!
    Pretty much and thats sad..A bad fed case involving some roids can get you twice as much time as blowing someones head off..The scrutiny on anabolic steriods right now is horrible..Thats why my stash never leaves my safe and I refuse to get any packages at my house..You have to be safe,esp.. right now..Good luck..Fight,fight,fight the case with the best lawyer you can afford..DO NOT USE THE PUBLIC DEFENDER this is your life your playing with..

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    Off topic. Kong, who is that in your ava?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAW
    That's horriable. I hope it all turns out OK. Such a bitch to have to deal with this. I mean it's not like to dealing Crack for gosh sakes. My son get's his stuff sent to my office. It probably isn't a good idea, is it? On top of that he uses my credit card to pay for it because the charge acct bill and mailing address need to be the same. I better put an end to that.
    CCs can be traced relatively easily......good sources do not allow CC transactions. I would think this one over very carefully and talk to your son. It sounds like you support him 100%, you should discuss with him finding a new, safer source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roidattack
    Off topic. Kong, who is that in your ava?
    Roidattack long time bro..Good to see you..Thats Corky Thatcher from Life goes On...He is the coolest..Yes, you can sigh..Thats not me

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    Quote Originally Posted by KINGKONG
    Roidattack long time bro..Good to see you..Thats Corky Thatcher from Life goes On...He is the coolest..Yes, you can sigh..Thats not me

    Good to see you too bro. Havent seen you around lately. I was hoping that wasnt your high school pict or something. lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ward065
    CCs can be traced relatively easily......good sources do not allow CC transactions. I would think this one over very carefully and talk to your son. It sounds like you support him 100%, you should discuss with him finding a new, safer source.
    Unless he wants his next source to be Bubba his cell-mate/lover..I would say be WAY more cautious..We don't think of juice as a big deal..But it's right up there with crack in the federal scheduling..You have five bottles of test at 2.5 grams per bottle..Thats basically the same thing in the laws eyes as having 12.5 grams of crack sent in the mail..Thats distribution..Be safe guys..

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    Quote Originally Posted by roidattack
    Good to see you too bro. Havent seen you around lately. I was hoping that wasnt your high school pict or something. lol.
    Not trying to be disrespectfull of supercork, but Iam very glad to say thats not me just a guy with down syndrome thats probably got more a$$ than me..

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    Quote Originally Posted by KINGKONG
    Unless he wants his next source to be Bubba his cell-mate/lover..I would say be WAY more cautious..We don't think of juice as a big deal..But it's right up there with crack in the federal scheduling..You have five bottles of test at 2.5 grams per bottle..Thats basically the same thing in the laws eyes as having 12.5 grams of crack sent in the mail..Thats distribution..Be safe guys..

    Wow, maybe Ill stick to creatine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KINGKONG
    Not trying to be disrespectfull of supercork, but Iam very glad to say thats not me just a guy with down syndrome thats probably got more a$$ than me..
    HAHAHAH probably true! Damn him.

    I'd recommend you leave the country ASAP, then you don't need to worry about what will happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KINGKONG
    Not trying to be disrespectfull of supercork, but Iam very glad to say thats not me just a guy with down syndrome thats probably got more a$$ than me..

    lol..

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    Quote Originally Posted by roidattack
    Wow, maybe Ill stick to creatine.
    Makes you think, huh...They actually compare our precious juice with dirty crack or meth..Our government sucks...Needs to be some big changes in laws on a state and federal basis... on the feds...

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    We need to follow our older smarter brother canada and alot of their policy...
    I Need to be able to use juice without risking everything Ive worked all my life for..You know...

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