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    Prop hurts... who has a solution?

    So, we all know prop hurts, and I have heard some excellent explanaitions of why ... but who here has figured something out to REDUCE how much it hurts, or the duration.

    Workout the muslce you injected in?

    Dilute it with more oil?

    Combine it with lower concentration anabolics? (kind of like diluting it.)

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    I don't dilute prop and I hate working out the muscle I just injected. When prop really kills me I put a heating pad on it, stretch a bit, massage a bit and if needs be pop 600mg ibuprofin. the rest I just wait out.

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    Injectable B-12 works wonders from what I hear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fanatic
    Injectable B-12 works wonders from what I hear.
    Amen.

    Also if you get sterile oil you can draw some of it at the time of drawing compound. I would not call it diluting though... call it cutting because it will have the same mg that you previously drew for injection.

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    Have seen people who swear by Grape Seed oil, never used it myself, but supposed to be the stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shortie
    Have seen people who swear by Grape Seed oil, never used it myself, but supposed to be the stuff.
    grape seed, cotton seed, sesame seed... as long as it is sterile.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl
    grape seed, cotton seed, sesame seed... as long as it is sterile.
    Now isn't there something to be said for the fineness of the molecular structure of the oil used that indicates it's cutting properties?

    Just curious, next cycle for me is going to include prop and tren so I am starting to pay attention to prop pain more.

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    Prop hurts... who has a solution?


    Do test E.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shortie
    Now isn't there something to be said for the fineness of the molecular structure of the oil used that indicates it's cutting properties?
    Oil is oil. Cutting properties is just to put more of a painless inert substance mixed with the injection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roidattack
    Prop hurts... who has a solution?


    Do test E.
    Cyp freak here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl
    Oil is oil. Cutting properties is just to put more of a painless inert substance mixed with the injection.
    As I live I learn, thx Mes

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    Yeah, I'm going to cut it with more oil - this is unbearable for another 102 days. I have to inject regularly ... I'm doing NPP and Tren during my cycle, which both require ED to EOD injections to keep stable ... the tren actually demands ED. Thus, no sense in using a longer half life, like cyp or enan... otherwise I would have. How much B12 do you include to cut it with? 1cc? (1000mcg?)

    I had just taken 400mg of IB JUST before coming back to read this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrumanHW
    How much B12 do you include to cut it with? 1cc? (1000mcg?)
    Yes.

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    Does it lesson it considerably Meso? The pain that is?

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    Also, I have a slight fever... prop does that? I thought it was other ones more commonly... and this is a homebrew... so the BA is perfect. ?

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    to stop the pain from prop...........


    use test enth. or test cyp..
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    Yeah yeah... I know - but I need ED or EOD injections...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrumanHW
    Yeah yeah... I know - but I need ED or EOD injections...
    why??
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    NPP ... less water bloat risk ... and I haven't used Nandrolone before, so I wanted to follow my own advice and use short half life esters. plus, they are generally stronger - short esters.. and more so (from credible sources) than even the difference in the weight of the ester would imply.

    http://www.bodybuilding4life.com/for...ead.php?t=7943

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    never used it.. some have..
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    i just started my prop cycle. it hurts a lil but i say just tough it out...it will be well worth it!!!!

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    Hehe prop pain. My advice would be just to deal with it. I just wrapped up 91 injections ED which really starts to suck towards the end of my cycle. When I mixed it with EQ, it tends to ease the pain a little.

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    ya, prop give you fever.

    ya, dude... prop does give you fever, I get fever for three days after every time I inject..... if I would you don't do the prop anymore...

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    Yeah, I knew it. I wonder why it does... I did last time when I was on ENANTHATE too. going to try the B12 in a moment ... hope that works. Gotta say ... just had sex !!! Amazing on Test. :-)

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    I really feel like I was eaten by a billy goat and shit off a cliff today ... between the fever, my legs and glutes hurting (all the way down to my knee), a headache ... and having gotten little sleep from tossing and turning all last night cause my little bitch leg hurt. I swear, I woke up every 20 minutes. Anyway, Drummerboy says he got used to the Prop by week ... hoping for the same. I want to feel GOOD on a cycle, not crappy.

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    My glutes were the least sensitive to prop pain and I used it ED for 6 months - 100mg ED. Plus you can use 4 sites right there. Gluteus medial and maximus X 2!

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    My last Prop cycle I got bad fevers the last 2 weeks.I had to stop the cycle.So I know exactly what you're going through.It sucks for,since you just got started.My fevers didn't start til the end.
    Another thing.Ever since that happened to me.I'm Test sensitive.Meaning ANY type of Test I use,my muscle will swell and get sore.I have to cut my enathate with oil,or I couldn't use it.That's how bad it is.Very strange sitution.I blame the last run on Prop for this.Never had issues before.All other gear is fine though.Deca ,EQ,Fina ect no swelling or soreness at all.Just friggin Testosterone in all it's forms.

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    after drawing your gear into your pin draw 1cc of liqiud lidocaine into the pin. make sure the lidocaine is the first substance that is injected and it will completely numb the injection site with no pain from prop.

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    Wow... thats UBER weird Pinnacle. I hope I haven't developed that. Anyway, I'll give it a few more days before I decide to switch esters...

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    Holy shit! Where do I get lidocaine? And what is lidocaine (any mind altering affects) ? I've done cycles, but in spite the fact I live in Hollywood I've never (and hopefully never will) try coke. Wouldn't that be difficult to get?

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    Prop hurts like a bitch i used a really realy hot towel to massage the area after injecting

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    When ppl mention prop pain, is this homebrew prop or from a UGL? Just curious to know if the pain is due to high concentrations of BA used by UGL's to dissolve the prop, or is the pain just cuased by the prop hormone itself?

    I made my own prop from powder and used 2%BA and 20%BB to dissolve it...is this still going to cause this pain I hear so much about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrumanHW
    Holy shit! Where do I get lidocaine? And what is lidocaine (any mind altering affects) ? I've done cycles, but in spite the fact I live in Hollywood I've never (and hopefully never will) try coke. Wouldn't that be difficult to get?
    no bro its not a drug. its like novacaine. numbs you up. doesnt fuck you up. I got a tetnis shot and i didnt feel a thing. i asked the doc why it didnt hurt said they put lidocaine in it.

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    you can also buy lidocaine gels or topicals to rub on injection site. novacaine works just as well. both are no addictiv and relativly harmless unless your pregnant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by juicy juicy
    ya, dude... prop does give you fever, I get fever for three days after every time I inject..... if I would you don't do the prop anymore...

    Everytime? If prop really did that no one would ever use it! Getting through prop fever right now and its the same as a real one, had to stop working out and everything.


    Whats your input on this fellow prop users?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chute
    Everytime? If prop really did that no one would ever use it! Getting through prop fever right now and its the same as a real one, had to stop working out and everything.


    Whats your input on this fellow prop users?
    Using it for a week now and i feel great (eod). 1st 2 shots hurt abit (sore) for about a day or 2 but nothing now. just did my 3rd shot in the same area as my first and no pain this time around. no fever nothing but good times!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cavemanspearchucker
    you can also buy lidocaine gels or topicals to rub on injection site. novacaine works just as well. both are no addictiv and relativly harmless unless your pregnant.
    Yeah but while this would make the injection itself pain free, the painkiller would surely then wear off and the site would still be sore, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrumanHW
    So, we all know prop hurts, and I have heard some excellent explanaitions of why ... but who here has figured something out to REDUCE how much it hurts, or the duration.

    Workout the muslce you injected in?

    Dilute it with more oil?

    Combine it with lower concentration anabolics? (kind of like diluting it.)

    i cut it with 1/2 cc of oil per 1cc of gear

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrumanHW
    I'm doing NPP and Tren during my cycle, which both require ED to EOD injections to keep stable ...

    Hmmmm.... I was under the impression that NPP had a half-life of about 4 days, and can maintain stable blood levels injecting twice a week,(3 and 1/2 days apart). Is this correct??

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoidGut
    Just curious to know if the pain is due to high concentrations of BA used by UGL's to dissolve the prop
    that was my problem exactly!

    switched to a pharmaceutical prop @ 2% BA and the pain was basically non exsistent.

    a well known UGL uses 5% BA in all their products, since i stopped using them i have no more crippling pain and swelling. i went through torture to figure it out though.

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