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    onthecumup is offline Associate Member
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    getting next cycle straight

    ok im not done with my first but know what i am going to incoorporate into my second cycle. however i am not rushing into it so dont get that idea, im taking proper pct as well as 3 months off, just wanted to know if this sounded good b/c i have all of the gear now and if its not a good cycle then ill need to be makin some phone calls.

    300mg deca /week 1-10
    500 mg test e/week 1-10
    150 mg winstrol /week 6-10

    also have clomid, nolva and hcg
    i know iw ill need the clomid and i will use the nolva to be safe, however i am not for sure if i need the hcg
    any input would be great
    thanx guys

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    Id bump the deca to 400mgs a wk and the winny to 50mgs ed or 100mgs eod other then that looks ok

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    onthecumup is offline Associate Member
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    what is the half life of winstrol ?

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    try
    1-11 test e 500mg
    1-10 deca 400mg
    test should be 1 week longer
    and i believe then you should run winstrol 9-13
    pct starting after winstrol
    Last edited by jrock38; 09-29-2005 at 04:17 PM.

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    Actually according to Hooker's profile, I believe, you should run the Test 2 weeks longer than the Deca . Nitpicking really, basically a sound cycle, but do bump your Deca to 400mg/wk, like everyone has said. Also, HCG , IMO, play it by ear, 12 weeks can be enough for some to exp testicular atrophy, others it takes longer. So just wait and see how the boys look on week 13, if lookin a little peeked, run HCG 500IU eod or 250 IU ed for wks 13/14. Then clomid PCT
    Last edited by shortie; 09-29-2005 at 04:20 PM.

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    ok, so still what is the winnt half life and why would i run winny at the end and after the other gear?

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    8-9 hours

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    Quote Originally Posted by onthecumup
    ok, so still what is the winnt half life and why would i run winny at the end and after the other gear?
    Roughly 9 hrs. And some like to run orals at the first to jump start their cycles, some like it on the end to load up as much as possible once the other longer acting gear has kicked in. Preference issue I think, never had anyone lay out a real good scientific reason why one not the other.

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    damn, so wouldnt 100 eod be a joke? by the second day, youre down to about 13 mg

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    Quote Originally Posted by onthecumup
    damn, so wouldnt 100 eod be a joke? by the second day, youre down to about 13 mg
    Well, I think most of the time 100mg eod is for the depot winny, not tabs.

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    thats what i ahve, but wouldnt the half lives be the same or no?

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    i have depot that is, sorry for the confusion

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    Hooker says EOD on Depot, so there must be some difference in the mechanism allowing it longer bioavailability. But I can't find it, someone else?

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