what is so bad about running straight winny?

**Skull Mason** · 09-29-2005, 09:21 PM

can anyone break it down for me?

**eGGz** · 09-29-2005, 09:23 PM

Winstrol will hamper your natural testosterone production. Males need testosterone.

**Skull Mason** · 09-29-2005, 09:42 PM

but isnt that what happens with any steroid you use for the most part? What else would I run with winny to combat that?

**spywizard** · 09-29-2005, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by Skull Mason

but isnt that what happens with any steroid you use for the most part? What else would I run with winny to combat that?

um.. test

**spywizard** · 09-29-2005, 09:50 PM

oh, you probably meant what supps could you take to boost your natural test, while taking winnie..

**Skull Mason** · 09-29-2005, 10:05 PM

but dont all steroids at some point hamper your bodys own test production?

**eGGz** · 09-29-2005, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by Skull Mason

but dont all steroids at some point hamper your bodys own test production?

Yes. That's why running testosterone as a cycle base compound works to keep everything up and running. You will still have test in your system despite the body not producing.

**topvega** · 09-29-2005, 10:12 PM

idealy u want to have test as the base for all your cycles... some people will not agree with this, but the majority do...

**Skull Mason** · 09-29-2005, 10:22 PM

i guess i seem to be somewhat against it for my own use because i took it once and got huge but lost most of it, didnt do any pct of course. but this time around im not looking for those kind of gains. I am coming to the end now and love the results I have gotten. Will i need to do soem pct if im using straight winny as well?

**eGGz** · 09-29-2005, 10:33 PM

You lost your gains because of not doing a proper PCT, not because of the compound(s) you used.

Any steroid cycle requires a proper PCT. Something you should have learned from your last episode.

**Skull Mason** · 09-29-2005, 10:49 PM

i know thats why i lost it i said that. nonetheless wasnt too excited about the side effects that come along with test. but thats all in the past, im finishing up winny and is it imperitive that I use proper pct coming off this and if so which would you reccommend.

**QuieTSToRM33** · 09-29-2005, 11:13 PM

do a search on Pheedno's PCT protocol ... that should help .... always research b4 u ask a question ... all the answers are on this board .... 1st search for it ... if u cant find it ... then ask a question

ALWAYS RESEARCH FIRST

**Swole33** · 09-30-2005, 12:34 AM

studys show winny suppresses LH 48% on average. also winny is not very androgenic so keeping your libido in check may be a problem. my solution for a winny only cycle is stack it with proviron . if you opt any other dht derivitive, your hair will fall out guaranteed.

**Skull Mason** · 09-30-2005, 12:55 AM

thanks fellas. Yeah i didnt seem to feel any side effects until I read on here about it drying out your joints and causing some pain, and then i kind of started noticing it. Dont know if it was in my head though. also got a doc to give me some cialis so hopefully that will help with the libido problem...