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I know that you need to throw in some test on a cycle of winni and fina
and i also know that eq is a mild form of test..even tho its really mild will it be ok to us it as a base rather than any other test?
i was thinking on talking a very light cycle too so it wont shut me down that hard. ie.
Winni 50mg EOD
Tren 30mg EOD
EQ 400mg a week
pct clomid/nolva
you think this will work im not a big fan of test i dont react well to it :scratch:
ok run a form of test at around 300mgs so you don't suffer through your cycle. olso tren at 30mg eod won't do shit, just don't run it. try this:
test e 300mg's wk 1-13
eq 400mgs wk 1-12
winny 50mgs eod wk 10-15
PCT
i hope that winny is oral other wise needs to be inj ed. 50mgs ed for best results
but i read alot about how winstrol and trenbolone wor in sinergy together :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by testosterona
You are giving advice to a person who knows nothing about anabolics.Has never ran a cycle.Nor is he willing to research.He wants everyone to do his homework for him.It doesn't work that way.
~Pinnacle~
I agree with this but why don't you want to run test? 300 mg ew is a very low dose IMO. If this is your first cycle, most ppl do 400-500 mg of test ew for 12 wks.Quote:
Originally Posted by testosterona
Also, to fully benefit from EQ, it has to be run longer than other hormones....I would never think of running it less than 15 wks...it is VERY mild and will not impress you if you are looking for bulk and size. If you are lucky and have a solid diet, you should look to gain anywhere from 5-10 lbs off of EQ...but those are solid keepable pounds.
y are you always on my case?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinnacle
i have ran a cycle before of prop and eq i dont react well to test.
i was doing alot of reaserch about this over the net but i couldnt find anything that relates to this topic
ahhhhh...ic :rolleyes: :no:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinnacle
well pinnicles right, you need to at least come up with a decent cycle and an understanding of what you are doning to yourself. we cant' do it for you. do some reading and don't be lazy buddyQuote:
Originally Posted by Rocky IV
EQ is not a mild form of test.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocky IV
EQ = equipose
Test = testosterone
The male endocrine system naturally produces Testosterone not Equipose.
How exactly do you react to test ?
Which test esters have you tried ?
you don't wanna be shut down hard, yet you include tren in your cycle. the most suppressive steroid there is. :scratch: keep researchin more bro like the guys have already said. you have a lot to learn. test is best!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocky IV
I took prop and eq for my first cycle and i bloated up with water with in the first two weeks and i also felt like shit for some reason..i thought test was suposed to make u feel amazing but i read up some info that some poeple get depressed while actually using test..mabey my estrogen levels we too high because i was not taking nolva with the cycle at that time. i took it afterwards but now im left with a smooth look wich i dont like..and i still dont enderstand y i felt like shit on it and retained water so quickly..also prop left my ass really sore. not when injected but the next day after..i was limping like a goat :frown:Quote:
Originally Posted by eGGz
well id hate to bust your bubble but tren shuts you down hard!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocky IV
even tho 30mg EOD wont do anything..add SOME test and raise that to at least 50mg ED and work from there..
if you decide not to listen get yourself some hcg otherwise your gonna have no natural test for awhile after your cycle and loose everything!
ps pinnacles right
I don't use prop because it isn't worth the pain IMO. On the other hand, I feel great on test enanthate. I also run nolva @ 10mg ED and A-Dex @.25mg ED for bloat. Also I feel like crap on winny and it kills my joints, elbows especially. I guess we are opposites in these aspects.
I think he's referring to you?Quote:
Originally Posted by testosterona
yea your probly right everyones body reacts diferently to citain drugsQuote:
Originally Posted by eGGz
wheni used to take pro hormones i used to feel great on them m1t was good i felt so confident and i was always pumped everywhere i went. so how soes that make sense that i didnt react well to the prop?
No I'm not..I'm referring to Rambo .....If I piss him off enough,he might,just might actually do some research and spare himself from harm.Because right now,he's an accident waiting to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seattle Junk
~Pinnacle~
All we need is a dbol or deca only cycle and we've come full circle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinnacle
Put some test enathate in there and put it together right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocky IV
sounds like a plan but im going to start useing letro a week before i even start the cycle just to keep the water down as low as possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seattle Junk
do you find letro to be more afective then arimedex?
Personally I would rather go with Arimidex and nolvadex than letro!Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocky IV
Good advice. Armidex is great for stopping bloat.Quote:
Originally Posted by mark956101957