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    bridge...long and hard!!

    haha. well wich steroid do you prefer taking as a bridge. VAR or DBOL ?

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    Don't know a lot of guys who would use dbol as a bridge because of it's supressive nature. The var is acceptable and for some may not affect the HPTA negatively, but will for others, esp in a dose good enough to do anything.

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    how about t bol

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    How long do you plan on bridging?

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    I'm looking to use a var bridge at 10mg ED for 11 weeks. I'd rather retain my gains than watch them disappear.
    I don't think you can use d-bol as a bridge (too suppressive) but it can be used to kick start a cycle.

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    as above like 14 weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigger
    as above like 14 weeks
    Why not run a 30 day LR3 IGF-1 cycle,followed by 4 weeks of clen ,then another 30 day IGF cycle?You'll actually PUT ON SIZE and you won't be shut down at all.Giving your receptors plenty of time to clear.I'd do that rather than just trying to maintain size using girlyman VAR...


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    I bridged during my last two cycles using 100mg of test cyp a week for 10 weeks. Lost a little water retention but kept my weight and strength up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle
    Why not run a 30 day LR3 IGF-1 cycle,followed by 4 weeks of clen ,then another 30 day IGF cycle?You'll actually PUT ON SIZE and you won't be shut down at all.Giving your receptors plenty of time to clear.I'd do that rather than just trying to maintain size using girlyman VAR...


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    Thats great advice!!! I'm going to bang that out when I'm done with my cycle. Makes a whole lot of sense Pinn.


    You're just killing me with the Girlyman comment!! I LOVE VAR!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle
    Why not run a 30 day LR3 IGF-1 cycle,followed by 4 weeks of clen ,then another 30 day IGF cycle?You'll actually PUT ON SIZE and you won't be shut down at all.Giving your receptors plenty of time to clear.I'd do that rather than just trying to maintain size using girlyman VAR...


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    hmm...let se, why i dont use igf-1. by bigger .

    1. to expencive for a student
    2. im still to young
    3. dont know were to get it, maby gensci has some.
    4. well i got plenty (gonna get ) of sissy VAR .

    haha thnx pinnacle for ya input, and i will sure follow you advice when i got some igf-1 on hands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker93
    I'm looking to use a var bridge at 10mg ED for 11 weeks. I'd rather retain my gains than watch them disappear.
    I don't think you can use d-bol as a bridge (too suppressive) but it can be used to kick start a cycle.

    var at 10mg ED i think is completly pointless even to try to bridge and keep gains. At that low of a dose you could just take something from GNC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigger
    hmm...let se, why i dont use igf-1. by bigger .

    1. to expencive for a student
    2. im still to young
    3. dont know were to get it, maby gensci has some.
    4. well i got plenty (gonna get ) of sissy VAR .

    haha thnx pinnacle for ya input, and i will sure follow you advice when i got some igf-1 on hands.

    1. I pay more for 400 5mg. Var than I do for 2mgs of IGF. So that cant be it

    2. How old are you???

    3. It sounds like you have a gensci connect and if you do then you can grab Igtropin which is one of the best out there, but also the most $$$

    4. Can't argue with the var b/c I love it. But if you're going to get it then you dont have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhova16
    1. I pay more for 400 5mg. Var than I do for 2mgs of IGF. So that cant be it

    2. How old are you???

    3. It sounds like you have a gensci connect and if you do then you can grab Igtropin which is one of the best out there, but also the most $$$

    4. Can't argue with the var b/c I love it. But if you're going to get it then you dont have it.
    1. i capp my var.
    2. minimum order from gensci igf-1 500iu =over 1000$
    3. you must have one of those killer as sources...haha
    4. im 21
    5. ? i dont know got any inputs?

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    6. i do got it but now yet capped... i have been lazy

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike88
    var at 10mg ED i think is completly pointless even to try to bridge and keep gains. At that low of a dose you could just take something from GNC.
    Wouldn't anything higher than that dose be suppressive for 11 weeks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigger
    2. minimum order from gensci igf-1 500iu =over 1000$

    You're thinking of GH when you say IU. But yea same difference with the IGF, 5mg minimum order.

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    I've been researching bridges. 100mgs of primo a week seems to be a popular one. Many seem to feel that you can fully recover on this dose. The double edge sword is though I don't know if this low a dose would do much for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by striker93
    Wouldn't anything higher than that dose be suppressive for 11 weeks?

    just depends on your body everyone is different . I have taken 45mg of var and got shut down a little and three of my friends ran the same and didnt get shut down at all. But personally i would never run var again at 45mg again was a waste of money i would do at least 80 if i was running it alone

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike88
    just depends on your body everyone is different . I have taken 45mg of var and got shut down a little and three of my friends ran the same and didnt get shut down at all. But personally i would never run var again at 45mg again was a waste of money i would do at least 80 if i was running it alone
    How do you know if that your friends didnt get shut completely???


    I've gotten great results of 40-50mgs of Var. What kind were you using???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gassy
    I've been researching bridges. 100mgs of primo a week seems to be a popular one. Many seem to feel that you can fully recover on this dose. The double edge sword is though I don't know if this low a dose would do much for you.
    I've heard low dose primo is useful for bridging too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayhova16
    How do you know if that your friends didnt get shut completely???


    I've gotten great results of 40-50mgs of Var. What kind were you using???

    My balls shrunk up and theres different. We didnt get blood tests i was just going off that. We capped the var. what kind of results did u get?

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    try halo at around 20mgs a day. this will keep aggression up during pct and increase stregth with minimal suppression. look up hookers profile

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    Whatup Jay!
    If he has the var powder then obviously var is his best choice. BTW 21 is not too young to use IGF-1 LR3.

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    bump on halo as a bridge

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    Quote Originally Posted by testosterona
    try halo at around 20mgs a day. this will keep aggression up during pct and increase stregth with minimal suppression. look up hookers profile

    What did your cycle with halo look like?? And how was your suppression?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
    Whatup Jay!
    If he has the var powder then obviously var is his best choice. BTW 21 is not too young to use IGF-1 LR3.
    ok, thx so im not a lill shitty kid then. hahah. yeah i got 15g var , so its already paid for. best choise, well for now it seams that way.

    thx alot for da pm JAY. i will end my cycle last november so its awile left on it. i will probably do it our way, but still i dont know what igf-1 is i sure know GH but, sure is afraind of insulin (slin) (i do not wanna die) well thx guys for your inputs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigger
    ok, thx so im not a lill shitty kid then. hahah. yeah i got 15g var , so its already paid for. best choise, well for now it seams that way.

    thx alot for da pm JAY. i will end my cycle last november so its awile left on it. i will probably do it our way, but still i dont know what igf-1 is i sure know GH but, sure is afraind of insulin (slin) (i do not wanna die) well thx guys for your inputs.
    research halo for a bridge bro. i hear good things. keeps up the agressivness and strength during pct. minimal supression at 10-20mgs

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    thx bro, i will...

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
    Whatup Jay!
    If he has the var powder then obviously var is his best choice. BTW 21 is not too young to use IGF-1 LR3.

    WUD UP KID!!!


    Yea the Var powder is reeeal cheap. All raw material usually is. I'm just iffy on the dosing of it.

    I tried Winny powder before and it sucked!!!! I get the most outrageous results from the amps but nothign from the raw winny powder.. Let us know what results you get!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike88
    My balls shrunk up and theres different. We didnt get blood tests i was just going off that. We capped the var. what kind of results did u get?
    Well what I was wanted as far as results I definitely got.. They were: harder, leaner and much more stronger. I feel as if you have to be at or below a certain BF% to see results. Usually the people that say they didnt like var is b/c they're 18% thinking Var will cut them up. Doesnt work that way. I was about 9% when I started. With a combo of the var and Primo+prop..I lost 4% in about 8 weeks. Obviously coupled with a great diet and proper training.


    I used the BD var at 40mgs, a little more expensive but worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle
    Why not run a 30 day LR3 IGF-1 cycle,followed by 4 weeks of clen ,then another 30 day IGF cycle?You'll actually PUT ON SIZE and you won't be shut down at all.Giving your receptors plenty of time to clear.I'd do that rather than just trying to maintain size using girlyman VAR...


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    ok lest say that i do this.. will i start under pct or after ?

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    Start IGF-1LR3 at begining of PCT

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