mixing HCG and Clomid dangers..

**amature225** · 09-30-2005, 03:00 PM

I was told (only by 1 person) that for PCT you should wait to use Clomid until after you are done with HCG ... They said using both at the same time would be counterproductive.

Could someone knowledgeable please clue me in here..

appreciate it.

**Drummerboy** · 09-30-2005, 03:09 PM

dont use them together. HCG then clomid, if you insist on using clomid.

**amature225** · 10-01-2005, 01:07 AM

does anyone know Why not to use them together? -thanks

**testosterona** · 10-01-2005, 01:58 AM

Originally Posted by Drummerboy

dont use them together. HCG then clomid, if you insist on using clomid.

drummer, do you not use clomid? iknow you've got a few cycles under your belt, i assume you use just nolva? sorry to jck the thread just curious

**abstrack** · 10-01-2005, 02:45 AM

Originally Posted by amature225

does anyone know Why not to use them together? -thanks

Becasue HCG is just going to mimick production in your testes and clomid stimulates your HPTA to function on its own.

**Maximus G** · 10-01-2005, 03:36 AM

by Bill Roberts - Clomid is the anti-estrogen of choice for improving recovery of natural testosterone production after a cycle, improving testosterone production of endurance athletes, and is also effective in reducing risk of gynecomastia during a cycle employing aromatizable steroids .

While it has been claimed that Clomid "stimulates" production of LH and therefore of testosterone, in fact Clomid’s activity is achieved not by stimulation of the hypothalamus and pituitary, but by blocking their inhibition by estrogen

**Drummerboy** · 10-01-2005, 07:54 AM

Originally Posted by Maximus G

by Bill Roberts - Clomid is the anti-estrogen of choice for improving recovery of natural testosterone production after a cycle, improving testosterone production of endurance athletes, and is also effective in reducing risk of gynecomastia during a cycle employing aromatizable steroids .

While it has been claimed that Clomid "stimulates" production of LH and therefore of testosterone, in fact Clomid’s activity is achieved not by stimulation of the hypothalamus and pituitary, but by blocking their inhibition by estrogen

ahhhh... not another cut and paste.... anyway i just use nolva after HCG , along with some ldex (soon to be a suicide AI) and clen . Keto after a week or 2.

**testosterona** · 10-01-2005, 12:27 PM

u want to try ldex on it's own for pct? what prompted you to do this

**Seattle Junk** · 10-01-2005, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by Drummerboy

ahhhh... not another cut and paste.... anyway i just use nolva after HCG , along with some ldex (soon to me a suicide AI) and clen. Keto after a week or 2.

Suicide AI, why?

**Drummerboy** · 10-01-2005, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by Seattle Junk

Suicide AI, why?

Ive been temporarily told to be quiet about why. PM me.

**Drummerboy** · 10-01-2005, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by testosterona

u want to try ldex on it's own for pct? what prompted you to do this

No no no... HCG ends as the longest ester has left my body. Nolva and ldex (i will use aro next) are taken with the hcg, and continued on after for about a month. That is my PCT. I add clen and keto if i want to shed some fat.