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    BHarper is offline Junior Member
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    Talking Building a MONSTER!! Need help planning cycle.

    Ok, I'm trying to setup a cycle for my friend. Here are his stats and history. He is 25, 6'2" 250 12-13%bf. He has done 3 cycles before. He seems to have great results from little use of gear. His first cycle we goined 65 lbs in 12 weeks and kept 50!

    His first cycle was this:
    1-10 Test E 500mg
    1-4 Dbol 30mg Ed
    1-8 Deca Norma's 300mg
    8-12 Winstrol 50mg ED
    1-12 Nolvadex 20mg Ed
    PCT Clomid 50mg ED 2 weeks

    He took advantage of the dining hall's all u can eat, and it payed off! He also has taken EQ, Var and Tren Acetate on the next cycles.

    He is looking to stay roughly the same size (clothing wise, so he could probably put on 15 lbs and go to 265, while dropping some bf) Idealy he would like to get down to single digit bf. So if he lost 5% bf, that is 13 lbs of fat.

    Here are my thoughts on the cycle. Money is a concern here so we are looking for the bast bang for the buck.

    Here was what I was thinking

    1-4 50mg Anavar ED
    1-13 500mg Test E
    1-12 500mg EQ
    1-8 400mg Tren E
    9-15 50mg Anavar ED
    16-18 Clomid, Nolvadex PCT Possibly run IGF @ 40mcg ED

    Clen , T3 and Ephedrine HCL will be used throughout the cycle. I was thinking of this:
    2-4 Clen 75mcg, 100mcg, 125 mcg, 100mcg, 75mcg (4 days on each dose)
    7-9 Clen 75mcg, 100mcg, 125 mcg, 100mcg, 75mcg (4 days on each dose)
    12-15 Clen 75mcg, 100mcg, 125 mcg, 100mcg, 75mcg (4 days on each dose)
    2-4 T3 50mcg, 75mcg, 100mcg, 75mcg, 50mcg (4 days on each dose)
    7-9 T3 50mcg, 75mcg, 100mcg, 75mcg, 50mcg (4 days on each dose)
    12-15 T3 50mcg, 75mcg, 100mcg, 75mcg, 50mcg (4 days on each dose)
    **On weeks not on Clen or T3, Run ECA stack, but need suggestions on dosing

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    Quote Originally Posted by BHarper

    1-4 50mg Anavar ED
    1-13 500mg Test E
    1-12 500mg EQ
    1-8 400mg Tren E
    9-15 50mg Anavar ED
    16-18 Clomid, Nolvadex PCT Possibly run IGF @ 40mcg ED
    Looks good....I don't like clen in the cycle since it makes you insulin insensative.With that in mind,IGF wouldn't be worth running since they work in opposites.

    ~Pinnacle~

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    Quote Originally Posted by BHarper

    Here was what I was thinking

    1-4 50mg Anavar ED
    1-13 500mg Test E
    1-12 500mg EQ
    1-8 400mg Tren E
    9-15 50mg Anavar ED
    16-18 Clomid, Nolvadex PCT Possibly run IGF @ 40mcg ED

    Clen , T3 and Ephedrine HCL will be used throughout the cycle. I was thinking of this:
    2-4 Clen 75mcg, 100mcg, 125 mcg, 100mcg, 75mcg (4 days on each dose)
    7-9 Clen 75mcg, 100mcg, 125 mcg, 100mcg, 75mcg (4 days on each dose)
    12-15 Clen 75mcg, 100mcg, 125 mcg, 100mcg, 75mcg (4 days on each dose)
    2-4 T3 50mcg, 75mcg, 100mcg, 75mcg, 50mcg (4 days on each dose)
    7-9 T3 50mcg, 75mcg, 100mcg, 75mcg, 50mcg (4 days on each dose)
    12-15 T3 50mcg, 75mcg, 100mcg, 75mcg, 50mcg (4 days on each dose)
    **On weeks not on Clen or T3, Run ECA stack, but need suggestions on dosing
    Gear cycle looks good. Although I would switch the var for prop myself for the first 4 weeks as I dont think there would be as big of a benefit there.

    As far as the clen/t3 cycle I would completely scrap that and by running and eca stack you're still going to down regulate your receptors, so just get rid of the eca.
    Pyramid the t3 dose up every 3-4 days and the clen by 20mcg ed and run a straight dose for several weeks using the benadryl protocol every 3 weeks.

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    BHarper is offline Junior Member
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    Here were my reasons for running the clen and IGF.

    Clen and T3 supposedly have very good synergenistic effects when used together. He has used both in the past and seems to respond well to them. I am not opposed to reducing the amount used, this what just a thought and a starting point for opinions.

    IGF is to help keep the gains from the cycle.

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