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Here is the dilema: i read a lot of post concerning both AAS, and except the liver harm (minimum with OT comparing to Dbol) it seems to be a good one.
Eq seems to get you good solid retainable gains, too. so i don't know which one to run.
Do i have to precise that it'll be a only cycle, and followed by the proper PCT (Liver 52 for OT, and some good 90% saponin Tribulus for libido, as it works for me...)
So which one would you get on:0wacko:
Use all three of them. Test, tbol, and EQ. That would be a pretty good cycle.
Yeah i know you guys are into test, whatever you take aside of it. But i won't, thx though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smak
I just wanna start an easy cycle and don't wann test for now.
But don't ya think that Eq and Tbol are pretty much the same, so ain't it useless to run the same product at once :scratch:
What cycle are you planning to run with whatever you choose, eq/tbol?
just one or the other, but no test, that would be my very first one
Well I wouldn't recommend doing an EQ only cycle. Alot of people sware by tbol. I haven't had the chance to try it, but I will sometime in the near future.
Remember bruh, test is best :)
but you see, everybody here is telling my that, but a lot of my close, and no offense but very aexperienced too, have only Dbol, only Deca, only .... and never had any sides, so why should i?Quote:
Originally Posted by Smak
but on the other hand, you all seem to be made another way :lol:
How do you know unless you try? Test alone will give you minimal to no sides whatsoever. It's a great first cycle.
Are there alot of jacked dudes in Paris?
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Originally Posted by Smak
Don't be that way :lol:
No but that's true that in France we don't necessarily go on test for every cycle and we don't ALWAYS get libido troubles from it. That said, some know that pb too. but that's not permanent and i just don't personaly give a fuck since my girl won't bother or bitch around during my cycle..........she's pretty cool with that! :7up:
Bump, anyone?
go with tbol bro. eq only will give you less gains it;ll take longer; and it's more expensive.
run it for 8wks at 60mgs ed
your name is testostack, and you wont take test? Kind of ironic!
:wg: i cant beleive i missed that,well spotted,and how ironicQuote:
Originally Posted by longhorn814
Ya, pretty ironic. Testostack? Why wouldnt you run test? test and eq for 14 weeks would be a very good first cycle. I you run eq or tbol without test, you stand a very good chace of losing your libido, and why even chance it???? Test is a must in every cycle......Quote:
Originally Posted by longhorn814
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Originally Posted by longhorn814
Yeah you're def. right, but to me that's more a way of thinkin more than what i'm taking or not. :lol:. but good one though, longhorn! :wg:
the thing is i don't feel like i need it as a start..many friends of mine never used it and never had deca dick though, so i'll give a try without it. maybe in my 2nd cycle Test/Tbol........
remember that everybody is different, just cause a couple of your friends never got deca dick, doesnt mean you wont get it either. There are lots of people that experience deca dick too, but why chance it? If u want to do something, i would suggest OT instead of EqQuote:
Originally Posted by Testostack
the only reason we , experienced steroid users from around the world, say to include test is because YOU WILL HAVE LESS SIDES WITH IT INCLUDED. think about it man, you body produces testosterone. it is THE hormone that make men men. you don't have to be afraid of it. the sides come from running test derrivatives like winny, deca, tren, alone because your body's test shuts down and there is no componsation, ie injected test. do whatever you want, but you'll figure it out.
btw, i've ran deca alone wich is similar to winny alone AND IT SUCKS DUDE. if you like sleeping and moping around in the gym, then go for it. excuse me, i'm on 600mgs test e so im headin to the gym to tear some shiiiiiit up!!
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Originally Posted by longhorn814
That's what i planned so that concur! thx though for your opinion, i'll think about it.....and i think you're def right about people reacting differently. Also i must confess that i won't need my snake for 6 weeks or so, so that's no that important :lol:. i still have my trib......
Actually that's not a question of being afraid of test or not, that's more that i don't think that it's not essential, but, as i said, i'll give it a try eventually if my first cycle shut me down, otherwise, i'll stick to only OTQuote:
Originally Posted by testosterona
You gotta understand my goal is to do just two cycle a year to boost my gains/strength, not to become on/off all year long, i'm just amateur, not looking to become pro.........eventhough i know i'll never be....... :rolleyes:
i did 6 weeks of t-bol after a tren only cycle and i swear that stuff gave me raging wood. and had no post cycle test suppression.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nickster#1
p.s. were do you get %90 saponnin Trib. i want some if its not to expensive.
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Originally Posted by etb
Scitec TribuX 90 is a legal supplement you can easily find, but strangely not on the net, damn it! i get like freeky with it!!really good stuff, just after a Max Lmg cycle. gained 20lbs in 6 weeks. :7up:
ok, to each his own. we are all just trying to save you the trouble of your first TRIAL cycle that you plan on running....but if you insist :wg: once you go test you won't go backQuote:
Originally Posted by Testostack
btw: your results of of OT can be achieved running testosterone with a good diet, some food for thought.
i already eat like a fu(king horse, dude! that's why i wanna go on juice, hard and huge, not like a fu(king powerlifter :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by testosterona
good luck then man. keep us posted
Oh, i just anticipate cuz i won't get into this before few months, but i like to sure before doing things that important, cuz i take it very seriously., don't wanna mess myself up :no:Quote:
Originally Posted by testosterona
thx though for your concern Testosterona, like your way of thinking......stay that way.
MAY THE JUICE BE WITH YOU :lol:
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Originally Posted by Smak
yep.. im on all that and tren... Tbol is working nice already in day 8.
You could also run EQ and Var.....just a thought
Ain't Var about the same as Tbol?Quote:
Originally Posted by bignatt
Just gonna check it out.....thx though
Bump, anyone?
There are a lot of European BBers that stay away from Test, so I have read. I am not going to bother telling you my thoughts because it is not what you want to hear.
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Originally Posted by BigJames
No, no!! go ahead, evrybody's opinion is welcome dude. :wg: thx anyway.
I am just going to agree with others above and recommend a cycle built on Test. My next cycle will be 13 weeker: Test E at 500mg per week and EQ at 400mg per week. Just my 2 cents.Quote:
Originally Posted by Testostack
LoL Very true.Quote:
Originally Posted by longhorn814
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Originally Posted by Smak
As i said, that's my way of behaving, like man,not what im taking or not, but, you're true that seems a bit ironic lol