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    Short cycles? help me on this guys.

    I have read RealGains articles and im now thinking about doing short cycles like this:
    4weeks on/off with higher oral and IM doses
    During offtime ill use only insulin

    Ive done 8cycles that was between 8-20weeks long and i just want to try something new.

    So if you have any good ideas for a stack or something please share with me


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    So you want a short cycle? Try test suspension or prop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerliftmike
    So you want a short cycle? Try test suspension or prop.
    Prop and Drol is something i could do.

    200mg ED of both???

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    thats 1400mgs of test a wk. i would try 100mgs ed if you can grow on this dose, wich you should be able two. abombs at around 150mgs ed 4wks. btw if your doing a short cycle around 6wks, test suspension would be alot more effective that prop, shoot it 50mgs twice a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by testosterona
    thats 1400mgs of test a wk. i would try 100mgs ed if you can grow on this dose, wich you should be able two. abombs at around 150mgs ed 4wks. btw if your doing a short cycle around 6wks, test suspension would be alot more effective that prop, shoot it 50mgs twice a day.
    My latest cycle was:

    W1-12 Testo Enanthate 1500mg/ew
    W1-12 Trenbolone acetate 100mg ED
    W1-3, 12-14 Anadrol 200mg ED
    So i think it answers why the doses is a bit bigger than the ones you selected.

    Test susp i cant get, so it have to be propionate .

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    wow what were your gains like. ok well prop is suposed to be ran 8wks min for decent results. by the look of your last cycle i assume you already know that, assuming you have a pretty good understanding about anabolic drugs. so:
    prop 200mgs ed wk1-8
    aboms 200mgs wk 1-3 (or maybe 100wk 1 then 200wk 2-4)
    you ever consider some NPP. good for shorter cycles to pack on mass (fast acting Nandrolone ) wk 1-8 100mgs ed

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    Quote Originally Posted by testosterona
    wow what were your gains like. ok well prop is suposed to be ran 8wks min for decent results. by the look of your last cycle i assume you already know that, assuming you have a pretty good understanding about anabolic drugs. so:
    prop 200mgs ed wk1-8
    aboms 200mgs wk 1-3 (or maybe 100wk 1 then 200wk 2-4)
    you ever consider some NPP. good for shorter cycles to pack on mass (fast acting Nandrolone) wk 1-8 100mgs ed
    If i should do 8weeks i run tren ,test,npp and abomb

    Tren 100mg ED
    Prop 200mg ED
    NPP 100mg ED
    Anadrol 200mg for the first 4weeks

    But now i want to run shorter cycles and not for 8weeks

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    why the short cycles? why don't you cycle 8wks on the 8off w' slin. That 8wk cycle above would be killer, just make sure you got the B-6 in there at 200mgs ed for the tren /NPP ya know. i'm trying to understand your motive for shorter cycles, whats to gain w/ that method???

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    i would do npp prop and var cycle.

    1-10 prop 200mg day
    1-10 npp 125mg day
    1-10 var 80mg day

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    you shpuld not run tren and npp at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gsxxr
    you shpuld not run tren and npp at the same time.
    i know people that do it all the time. just watch out for the proge gyno with b6. this guy runs crazy doses, i don't think we need to be to concerned with him.
    BTW gsxr; i'm with you on the 10wks but thats not what he's going for i guess. short cycles? i don't get em

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    npp and tren each at 500mg a week or more b-6 will not do shit. you will need to get some bromo. i would not risk it or put any one at risk of gyno.

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    gottcha. this is true, forgot about the doses of the two> LOL

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    I did an 8 weeker earlier this year - and got really good results - the recovery was also breeze, which really helped

    1-8 prop (75mg ED)
    1-8 tbol (50mg ED)
    7-10 IGF (50mcg ED) - running into PCT

    I've decided to use this as the basis for all my cycles now as recovery was so easy & i actually kept gaining during PCT (prolly due to quick HPTA recovery & the IGF)

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    npp and tren each at 500mg a week or more b-6 will not do shit. you will need to get some bromo. i would not risk it or put any one at risk of gyno.
    agreed - but i'd go for cabergoline instead of bromo given the choice - unless you enjoy feeling rough as fu<k

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    I ran this cycle and dident get any gyno
    w1-10 Prop 185mg ED
    w1-10 Tren 75mg ED
    w1-10 NPP 100mg ED
    Front: 100mg dbol for 2weeks.
    Did not run B6 or bromo.

    But i did get good answers from an other board on this and im going to do 4on/off for a year and see.

    Thanks anyway bros!

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    that is good then if you did not get gyno. that means that your not pron to it. but from a out sides point of view i would alwas tell some onw to run the bromo just to be on the safe side.

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    hmmm......i thought you were going to run a short cycle...???

    RealGains....advocates a 2 week on....4 week off cycle...

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    2 weeks on what?

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    Do a search on Realgains...

    Short Cycles??? Good Read!!!!!!

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