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    How many of you think

    30mg dbol (1-4) and 500mg test e(1-10) for a first cycle is a bad idea?

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    that would be a good first cycle. i would just run teh test 12 weeks.

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    good first cycle, as long as youre eating right and enough

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    Quote Originally Posted by brewski053
    30mg dbol(1-4) and 500mg test e(1-10) for a first cycle is a bad idea?
    I like it..........


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    so you guys dont have any objections to the dbol in there. Basically i wasnt sure if its better to run JUST test for 10-12wks

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    Dbol is used as a kickstart. Not a problem bro... matter o' fact, that's identical to my first cycle.

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    good 1st cycle... u shld get good results...

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    if you wanted to save money you could drop the test e to 250 a week for 12 weeks and get the same results since it your first cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by brewski053
    so you guys dont have any objections to the dbol in there. Basically i wasnt sure if its better to run JUST test for 10-12wks
    Either way bro...just keep your Test @ 500mgs weekly.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle
    Either way bro...just keep your Test @ 500mgs weekly.


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    Pinnacle you dont think he can get the same gains off of 250 a week since its his first cycle

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    500 is certainly better

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    Quote Originally Posted by STRANGE
    Pinnacle you dont think he can get the same gains off of 250 a week since its his first cycle

    same gains... no...

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    if its your first, take it cautious and take 30-40mg ED of nolva while on your dbol . then drop down to 10-20mg ED for throughout cycle estrogen binding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle
    Either way bro...just keep your Test @ 500mgs weekly.


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    Prolly 1cc every mon/thur right?

    I should be good running test for just 10wks then eh?

    I was planing on taking 10mg nolva ED at wk 1

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    i wld lean towards 12 weeks...

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    How old are you and is this your first cycle? Might have missed something in above posts. What are you stats?

    This is a good starter cycle depending on who is taking it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
    How old are you and is this your first cycle? Might have missed something in above posts. What are you stats?

    This is a good starter cycle depending on who is taking it.
    haha if u read it says first cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by topvega
    i wld lean towards 12 weeks...
    just curious why are you leaning toward 12?

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    If "you" read, it'd still be good to know something about you. This is what "stats" means. How can anyone give you advice if we don't know anything about your goals etc..

    I usually skim over these posts, there are thousands of them every day just like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brewski053
    just curious why are you leaning toward 12?
    test e takes a bit to kick in... u might find like me that 10 weeks in u r really just findin your groove....4 or 5 weeks to kick in... 10 weeks is the sweet spot bro...i mean don't be surprised if 10 weeks in u r lookin for some more test to go 15.... but what do i know.... i am just 1 of those guys that was doin a 10 week cycle, then a 12 week, now who knows... 15... 20???
    just kiddin... i'll be off by week 19....

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    Quote Originally Posted by topvega
    test e takes a bit to kick in... u might find like me that 10 weeks in u r really just findin your groove....4 or 5 weeks to kick in... 10 weeks is the sweet spot bro...i mean don't be surprised if 10 weeks in u r lookin for some more test to go 15.... but what do i know.... i am just 1 of those guys that was doin a 10 week cycle, then a 12 week, now who knows... 15... 20???
    just kiddin... i'll be off by week 19....
    HAHA, I can relate! Is that bad?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBdmfkr
    HAHA, I can relate! Is that bad?
    that depends on your definition of bad... lol

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    good to go, that cycle is par for course. You are gonna love it.

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    Be sure to keep some nolva on hand with the dbol in there. And proper PCT and you should be good to go bro.

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    should I run 10mg ed throughout or wait for signs of gyno?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brewski053
    should I run 10mg ed throughout or wait for signs of gyno?
    that's your call... i didn't... i wanted to see if i was prone to gyno... which i now know i m not...

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    i wld take b-6 and milk thistle during though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by topvega
    i wld take b-6 and milk thistle during though...
    whats the b6 good for? Could i take it in pill form lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by brewski053
    whats the b6 good for? Could i take it in pill form lol
    Yeah, just wondering im not a vitamin expert but what is the b6 for ?

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    i took 250 test en/wk for my first with no dbol and went from 170 to 200lbs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripdx
    i took 250 test en/wk for my first with no dbol and went from 170 to 200lbs
    haha damn

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    decent cycle, run 12 weeks with test and up your cals and protein

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