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    best for strength ????

    Hey,

    I was looking in the direction of Var for the results i want plus the low sides.... I want as muich strength gain and solid muscle as i can pack on while cutting my fat .... i wrestle so i have only about 5 pounds + or - to move around... How much should i expect my strength to go up on Var...or is there another product that may be better? Its all about strength

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    Quote Originally Posted by faustunta
    Hey,

    I was looking in the direction of Var for the results i want plus the low sides.... I want as muich strength gain and solid muscle as i can pack on while cutting my fat .... i wrestle so i have only about 5 pounds + or - to move around... How much should i expect my strength to go up on Var...or is there another product that may be better? Its all about strength
    ever thought about halotestin ? Insane strength gains with little bulk. Much better than var IMO.

    alo

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    everyone will be different.. some guys don't get the strength the expect from var..

    i did.. love the stuff, don't expect to gain weight though..

    test var combo.. is the shit..
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    Quote Originally Posted by spywizard
    everyone will be different.. some guys don't get the strength the expect from var..

    i did.. love the stuff, don't expect to gain weight though..

    test var combo.. is the shit..

    the test is outa the question...not looking for the weight gain...just strength....

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    what about tren

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    if test is out the question u have other issues u need to deal with...
    u run anything without test u run the risk of being shut down hard...

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    tren A isnt a bad idea

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    but w/o test u will shut down hard

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    some primobol maybe? thats what im about to start experimenting with, but im looking for atleast 12lbs of gain with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by faustunta
    Hey,

    i wrestle so i have only about 5 pounds + or - to move around... How much should i expect my strength to go up on Var...or is there another product that may be better? Its all about strength
    what your goals are will determine our comments... do u only have 5lbs to play with??

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    Quote Originally Posted by faustunta
    the test is outa the question...not looking for the weight gain...just strength....
    You can use test and not gain a ton of weight. Just use moderate doses and don't increase your cals a ton. Also, using a fast acting esther such as prop will keep the bloating down (as will the var).

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    Quote Originally Posted by faustunta
    the test is outa the question...not looking for the weight gain...just strength....
    well...

    i can take 500mg test per week, and not gain weight..

    the trick is the food you take..

    oh.. and do prop.. then there is less water weight.
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    tren and halo have the worst side effects for me, what about some eq or maybe some turnibol

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    try t-bol or var

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    tren eq and test with a jump start of dbol STRENGTH WENT THRU THE ROOF!!!!

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    tbol or var sound like your best bet. Or eq alone but if you only have 5 pounds appetite control sucks. Tren will probably kill your wind to much.

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    If all your looking for is strength and no mass gain, halo is the way to go.

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    I would say halo, though its quite hepatoxic and for me very hard to find.

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    Id like to try halo, but it looks like its the new var. All the prices Ive seen are out of this world.

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    Tbol 40 - 60 mg a day

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    Quote Originally Posted by TADOLFI
    Tbol 40 - 60 mg a day
    tbol and or var would be great.


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    halo or var...nice strengh gains

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    Halo the best but very toxic. Next best is var

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