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    question for bro

    my brother wants to do another cycle, but he doesn't want to do any orals at the beginning to jumpstart this one. he will be taking test e @ 500mg/wk and eq @400mg/wk for 15 weeks. he was wondering if he should just front load, or take test prop for weeks 1-4 and then start with the test e. any ideas and advice?

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    What are his stats, and cycle experience?

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    prop is good to jumpstart. thats what i like to do in a cycle like that

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    he' about 5'10", 215. not sure on the bf%. he has done a few cycles, i'm not really sure, maybe 3. he has taken dbol , drol, test, tren , deca ...

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    I'd do prop weeks 1-4 at 50-100mg/day.

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    ok, that sounds good. i will talk to him and let him know. thanks for the help. any body else have any more advice?

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    Be sure he has Nolvadex on hand for possible gyno, and clomid for Post Cycle. Bout all I can think of.

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    yeah, no doubt about that, we always have all that stuff on hand, just in case. how does prop compare to something like dbol or drol

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    It doesn't. But if you had to, Prop will make leaner gains without the water. It is injectable not oral. It doesn't affect the liver like a 17aa oral. Those are just a few.

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    man, i just got done watching the hbo thing on steriods , it was awesome

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    he is just concerned about his liver values, they've been pretty screwed up in the past

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    Probably from drinking. I'd say just stick to Prop. He'll love it if he doesn't mind the painful injections and ED shots. Hell, throw some fina in the syringe while hes at it!

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    alright, i'll let him know. thanks for the help. i'm getting my stuff next week too. let me know what you think of this cycle, test e 500mg/wk 1-15 eq 400mg/wk 1-14, drol 100mg/ed, wks 1-4 nolvadex on hand, clomid for pct, and milk thistle during the first 4 weeks with the drol

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    Looks good, start the milk thistle 2 weeks before if possible and run through the end of cycle. Maybe not necessary but hey it's cheap so why not be safe. 800-1000mg/day.

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    i was just told that it was recommended with the drol, i wasn't sure on the dosage and the duration i should run it though

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