what do you think my gains will be?

**dirty sanchez** · 10-05-2005, 04:32 PM

i'm going to do my second cycle,my first was a jear ago.this is my cycle
week1-4 60 mg t-boll
week 1-9 400 primo
week 4-12 250 test
week 9-12 50 mg winny eod
is this a good cutting cycle?i'm now at 11%
what do you think my gains will be?
i wanna go to 8% does anyone prefer a diet?
i hope this cycle will make me fucking strong

**Pinnacle** · 10-05-2005, 06:01 PM

Originally Posted by dirty sanchez

i'm going to do my second cycle,my first was a jear ago.this is my cycle
week1-4 60 mg t-boll
week 1-9 400 primo
week 4-12 250 test
week 9-12 50 mg winny eod
is this a good cutting cycle?i'm now at 11%
what do you think my gains will be?
i wanna go to 8% does anyone prefer a diet?
i hope this cycle will make me fucking strong

well...it's not a good cycle by any means.

Test needs to be ran from week 1.

I certainly think you can drop the tbol dose down.

You're running the winny too short a time frame.I'd run it right up to PCT,which would be week 14 or 15 depending on the Test used.I'm guessing enanthate though.

Personally,I'd drop the Primo from the cycle.Too many compounds IMO for a second cycle.

What about your anti's and PCT?

~Pinnacle~

**dirty sanchez** · 10-06-2005, 04:37 PM

i'm new here and i don't know what you mean with anti's and pct? yes its test enanthate
should i drop tboll till 50 mg a day, or less?
is this a good cutting cycle?

**FeldMarshellPotter** · 10-06-2005, 04:38 PM

how strong are you now Sanchez?

**shortie** · 10-06-2005, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by dirty sanchez

i'm new here and i don't know what you mean with anti's and pct? yes its test enanthate
should i drop tboll till 50 mg a day, or less?
is this a good cutting cycle?

Holy Shit! You need some PCT with that man, go back to the main forum page and there is an entire forum dedcated to PCT, find it and read.

**IBdmfkr** · 10-06-2005, 04:52 PM

Anti-estrogens=no bitch tits
PCT=Post cycle therapy , brings back your natural test levels to stabilize your hormone levels after cycle.

You need to do more research. That is a horrible cycle, I agree with Pinnacle's suggestions.

**dirty sanchez** · 10-06-2005, 04:56 PM

my max with bench is 85 kilo 6 times and with dumbells 38 kilo 6 times, don't know how mutch it is in lbs
now i know what pct is, i'm going to take nolva. or should i take clomid?

**dirty sanchez** · 10-06-2005, 04:57 PM

magic one with bench is 105 kilo

***SPIKE*** · 10-06-2005, 05:01 PM

If you dont know what PCT is buddy then you wont know what "ability to keep gains" is all about either.
I'm sure you're excited to jump into your cycle as we usually all are. But take some good advice and take a step back and read up on some info. It's always easy to post your cycle and have people comment on it and exchange some items. But read up on a little more and you'll know what will make this a better cycle. Just search through some threads and repost your cycle in the near future.
As far as giving you advice on your cycle we can all do that. Its always better when you read and know what you are doing is correct. PCT is the savior of gains!!!

**IBdmfkr** · 10-06-2005, 05:04 PM

He's hopeless. Go buy some M1T. That is made for people like you.

**shortie** · 10-06-2005, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by dirty sanchez

magic one with bench is 105 kilo

That's 231.4 lbs for us Americans. Not to pick on you dirty, but I think you could do far better by working out longer and if strength is all you want, then make sure you are doing a powerlifitng oriented workout.

**dirty sanchez** · 10-06-2005, 05:13 PM

i also think that ist better to read some more info :-) that's also wy i am at this forum to learn more about it, don't wanna make stupid mistakes.thx

**shortie** · 10-06-2005, 05:18 PM

We all make stupid mistakes, but research will help eliminate the real big ones, and hopefully the dangerous ones. Good luck

**IBdmfkr** · 10-06-2005, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by dirty sanchez

i also think that ist better to read some more info :-) that's also wy i am at this forum to learn more about it, don't wanna make stupid mistakes.thx

Good call, I wasn't expecting you to say that. Ask key questions if you cannot find them doing a search and we will gladly help.

***SPIKE*** · 10-06-2005, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by dirty sanchez

i also think that ist better to read some more info :-) that's also wy i am at this forum to learn more about it, don't wanna make stupid mistakes.thx

I wish I knew about forums as this when I started cycling. Take advantage of it b/c you have access to alot of info. Score some posts while you learn and you could hook up w/ some good people as I have.

If I knew about this site my first cycle wouldnt have been 300 D-bols

**IBdmfkr** · 10-06-2005, 05:38 PM

HAHA Jay! That is a GOOOODD cycle. Teach me!

**dirty sanchez** · 10-06-2005, 05:45 PM

300 dboll, that's a lot of dboll,i don't take dboll. a friend of mine his first cycle was a dboll only cycle, he did 30 mg a day for 5 weeks.he gaind about 15 lbs but after his cycle he got sick for a week and lost everything.i don't do only oral cycles, you don't gain enough.

**IBdmfkr** · 10-06-2005, 05:52 PM

haha, good choice. He was trying to point out it was a VERY bad cycle. Keep researching.

***SPIKE*** · 10-06-2005, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by dirty sanchez

300 dboll, that's a lot of dboll,i don't take dboll. a friend of mine his first cycle was a dboll only cycle, he did 30 mg a day for 5 weeks.he gaind about 15 lbs but after his cycle he got sick for a week and lost everything.i don't do only oral cycles, you don't gain enough.

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