were r my gains

**chrisa** · 10-05-2005, 10:07 AM

im in week 7 of my 10 week cycle an i havent seen much gains
i am currently doin:-

weeks 1-5 b-bol
weeks 1-10 test cyp
weeks 10-13 d-bol
weeks 14-15 clomid 100mg ed
weeks 16 clomid 50mg ed
weeks 14-16 nolva 40mg ed
weeks 17 nolva 20mg ed

im training:-

mon- chest,arms
tues- shoulders ,back
wed- legs
thur- chest, arms
fri- shoulders, back
sat - off
sun- legs

eating:

morrning - toast
10am -pasta with chicken , cheese, colslaw and ham
1pm - chicken and mayo sandwiches, packet of crisps
4pm - pasta
8pm - jacket patato or mince with mash patato or wot ever ( all evening meals with a protien shake)

im 5ft 4
and weigh 9st

and have problems putting weight on this is my first cycle , but not expectin to much to soon ,,,
will the gains come soon or should i be doin somthing diffrent?

**beast N°1** · 10-05-2005, 10:09 AM

fake

**chrisa** · 10-05-2005, 10:10 AM

?????????

**beast N°1** · 10-05-2005, 10:14 AM

i mean your gear is bunk, sory man, but in week 7 you should have broken out and gained atleast 20lbs on your first cycle with this stuff, what are your doses?

**chrisa** · 10-05-2005, 10:17 AM

weeks 1-5 b-bol 30mg ed
weeks 1-10 test cyp 500mg ew
weeks 10-13 d-bol 30mg ed
weeks 14-15 clomid 100mg ed
weeks 16 clomid 50mg ed
weeks 14-16 nolva 40mg ed
weeks 17 nolva 20mg ed

im abit new to all this an reading up on this each day

RA · 10-05-2005, 10:18 AM

Your also not eating enough.

**Bytista** · 10-05-2005, 10:18 AM

i'd blame your diet more than anything. I'd suggest you check out the diet section and start eating alot more quality foods.

**CapnZ** · 10-05-2005, 10:20 AM

Dude - looks like you need a serious diet check. Toast for breakfast? After not eating all night?? If you want ot pack on some quality muscle - you need a good shot of protein to get your day started - like 8 egg whites or 4 - 5 whole eggs along with some oatmeal or whole grain bread or other good complex carbs. You're only eating 4 times a day? Did you do any diet research before starting? What the hell are crisps anyway? If they are crackers - lose em and replace with some GOOD complex carbs or fresh fruit.
You need to be eating about every 2 hours, hungry or not. No protein in the 4 PM meal - the list goes on and on. Make sure you understand diet and have a good workout plan or the cycle wont do shit for you.

**BOBBY D** · 10-05-2005, 10:26 AM

ur diet is def. way off, more protein & carbs. space it out better thruout the day. also, guys checkout his training as well, training the same 2 muscles in the same week wont do much for growth. good luck & do some more research on diet.

**Hooksetter** · 10-05-2005, 10:27 AM

Try eatin a big bowl of oatmeal, tuna, spinach, bluberries, 0 sugar peanut butter, and protein powder all mixed together... LOL it will grow some hair on ur chest. HAHA j/k

All I can tell you is to up your # of meals. Also add in grilled chicken breasts throughout the day and eggwhites with your toast. There are good diets posted in the dietin forum for u to try and get on.

**chrisa** · 10-05-2005, 10:29 AM

thanks guys ,, but i fill up really quickly witch is why i cant eat much,,,
i fell stuffed after eatin a small meal,,, if i could change it i would straight away

the stuff is real aswell

**mranak** · 10-05-2005, 10:29 AM

Lots of gear wasted. All the more reason to make a first cycle testosterone ONLY.

**stupidhippo** · 10-05-2005, 10:33 AM

then eat continously small meals all through the day... then if u work out hard that training regime is too intense..

**Hooksetter** · 10-05-2005, 10:33 AM

Even with your diet though you should have experienced more gains than u did. Was ur gear legit? I mean you should have exploded if it was your first cycle.

**chrisa** · 10-05-2005, 10:36 AM

i seem to blow up wene i train ,,,,
i eat within an hour after traing an then slowly go down

**stupidhippo** · 10-05-2005, 10:37 AM

with a diet like that I wouldnt be surprised if he only put on a lil water weight.. If no water added then fake?

**CapnZ** · 10-05-2005, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by chrisa

thanks guys ,, but i fill up really quickly witch is why i cant eat much,,,
i fell stuffed after eatin a small meal,,, if i could change it i would straight away

the stuff is real aswell

If you fill up quickly then you gonna have to eat more often - like every hour or so. smaller meals = more meals. One way or another you NEED to get quality calories into your body. Maybe try replacing your protein shake with a weight gainer shake to up your calorie intake. Just so you know it can be done, I'm in week 7 also of a test e cycle (500 mg / wk) and I'm up close to 17 llbs with the same waist measurement as when I started. You gotta make yourself eat man - this aint no pleasure cruise.... good luck and keep working.

**Chemical King** · 10-05-2005, 11:00 AM

i find a good way to start eating more is to add a load of porridge oats to ur shakes.

RA · 10-05-2005, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by chrisa

thanks guys ,, but i fill up really quickly witch is why i cant eat much,,,
i fell stuffed after eatin a small meal,,, if i could change it i would straight away

the stuff is real aswell

Look, anyone can gain weight unless they have a medical problem. If your not going to eat more then go into pct because your wasting good gear.

**jucinator** · 10-05-2005, 11:32 AM

The diet needs lots of help but I also think you might want to post pics of the roids to see if they are fake or not smells like my 2nd girl friend FISHY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**punchrf** · 10-05-2005, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by chrisa

thanks guys ,, but i fill up really quickly witch is why i cant eat much,,,
i fell stuffed after eatin a small meal,,, if i could change it i would straight away

the stuff is real aswell

maybe try something like nlarge2. i have a problem getting enough calories in so after 2-3 of my regular meals have one of the shakes that has 600 calories and i think 44 grams of protein, not positive but those numbers are close. i feel like i'm going to throw up but it's the only way i can get the big amounts of calories down.

**stupidhippo** · 10-05-2005, 11:35 AM

nice avatar btw...

**TCEL300** · 10-05-2005, 11:42 AM

ur not eating anything man...egg atleast 10 eggs a day 10-12 z's of chicken..some fish..veggies..i eat healthy pasta if im eatn pasta...3 shakes 1 before bed...hit up the diet forum it will help more than me

**breaker7** · 10-05-2005, 02:52 PM

your diet is terrible if your gonna eat toast for breakfast add 10-12 egg white,also oatmeal with some splenda tastes great.You need alot more protein in you diet. 1.5 of protein per pound.You also need to eat closer to bed time.I think your over training, train each body part once a week once in awhile you can hit them twice. read up before wasting your time a ass,this is just some simple advice

**Bytista** · 10-05-2005, 03:35 PM

Most of your food choices are horrible. Eat cleaner foods. Here is a list for you

Protein

Boneless, Skinless Chicken Breast
Tuna (water packed)
Fish (salmon, seabass, halibut, sushi, mahi mahi, Orange roughi, tilapia, Sardines)
Shrimp
Extra Lean Ground Beef or Ground Round (92-96%)
Venison
Buffalo
Ostrich
Protein Powder (Whey, Casein, Soy, Egg)
Eggs
Low or Non-Fat Cottage cheese, Ricotta
Low fat or Non fat Yogurt
Ribeye Steaks or Roast
Top Round Steaks or Roast (stew meat, London broil, Stir fry)
Top Sirloin (Sirloin Top Butt)
Beef Tenderloin (filet mignon)
Top Loin (NY Strip Steak)
Flank Steak (Stir Fry, Fajitas)
Eye of Round (Cube meat, Stew meat, Bottom Round)
Ground Turkey, Turkey Breast slices or cutlets (*no deli or sandwich meats)

Complex Carbs (nothing enriched, bleached or processed if possible)

Oatmeal (Old fashioned, Quick oats, Irish steal cut)
Sweet Potatoes, Yams
Beans (Black eyed, Pinto, Red, Kidney, Black)
Oat Bran Cereal, Grape nuts, Rye cereal, Multi grain hot cereal
Farin (Cream of wheat)
Whole Wheat frozen Bagels, Pitas
Whole wheat or Spinach Pasta, Whey Pasta
Rice (Brown, white, jasmin, basmiti, arborio, wild)
Potatoes (red, white, baking)

Fibrous Carbs

Green Leafy lettuce (red, green, romaine)
Broccoli
Asparagus
String Beans
Spinach
Bell Pepers (Green or Red)
Brussels Sprouts
Cauliflower
Cabbage
Celery
Cucumber
Carrots
Eggplant
Onions
Pumpkin
Garlic
Tomatoes
Zucchini

Fruit (If acceptable on diet)
bananas, oranges, apples, grapefruit, peaches, strawberries, blueberries, raspberries, lemons or limes

Healthy Fats

Natural Style Peanut Butter
Olive oil, Safflower oil
Flaxseed oil
Fish Oil
Nuts (peanuts, almonds, walnuts)

Dairy

Eggs
Low of Non-Fat cottage cheese, Ricotta
Low or non-fat milk
Low fat or non-fat yogurt

**ScottyShotty** · 10-05-2005, 04:14 PM

I'm on day #1 of week #4 of my test-e 580 mg cycle. Does test-e act as an appetite stimulant?????? It must because I just ate 1lb. of hamburg, about 5 lbs of mashed potatoes, and about 20 jumbo shrimp. I'm so happy my test-e only cycle is finally kickin in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!GGGGGGGgrrrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!

**chrisa** · 10-06-2005, 03:48 AM

thanks

**legobricks** · 10-06-2005, 05:33 AM

WOW, u shure do know ur sh*t man. and also, i agree for a first cycle, that is WAAAAAYYYYYY tOOOOOOOOOOOO MUUUUUUUUCHHHHHHHHHH GEAR!!! IMO!

I just started week 3 of my test E 500mg per week cycle yesterday. My arm hurts like a BIOTCH and i dont know y? probably moved the needle around again in my arm. my arms are def. increasing in size so i think im gonna have to go with 1 inch needles now. previous was 5/8 (dont ask, the lady at the pharmacy screwed up!). i cant wait for this stuff to kick in,wel in full effect, cus im already feeling the sex drive hardcore!

**longhorn814** · 10-06-2005, 05:36 AM

eat like this, if you cant, then you shouldnt take AAS

UNoffical "How to Bulk" thread and sample diet...

**chrisa** · 10-06-2005, 07:03 AM

Originally Posted by longhorn814

eat like this, if you cant, then you shouldnt take AAS

UNoffical "How to Bulk" thread and sample diet...

alot of these diets include fish/tunna,, i hate fish, but i can do chicken insted yea

**stupidhippo** · 10-06-2005, 07:35 AM

i guessu can but fish is good 4 u

**CapnZ** · 10-06-2005, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by chrisa

alot of these diets include fish/tunna,, i hate fish, but i can do chicken insted yea

Chicken - turkey sure but learn to eat new foods. I didn't like cottage cheese so much a while ago but I know its a good source of protein so after knocking back a cup a day fore a while I started to like it...fish is a really good sourceof protein. Maybe start with some salmon steaks grilled....rub em down with some blackened seasoning.....