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    Question Tren and M1t????

    So we've heard many times that it just is not a good idea to take tren by itself....that test should be stacked with it. My question is if M1t would be a sufficient test steroid to stack with the tren and avoid the pitfalls of tren by itself??

    Im hoping to do a tren cycle in the next month or so but dont have many sources for test. Will the M1t work?

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    talk about HARSE on your liver..I suggest not doing that....then again some other may suggest it.

    just run it with real test. shoot the test

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    I am guessing no, You will def want some real test. I did a tren only cycle and did not exp. the horrors some guys talk about. It went pretty smooth all in all. I want to try it next time with test e and maybe deca . I love tren now though. It shapes and hardens your physique. Bump cuz I wanna see what folks will say.

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    M1t which I have run is very harsh on your liver......you get noticable gains..but u will lose most of it, unless you run a really strong pct program.

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    thought everyone should know that I am talking about a short cycle here....4-6 weeks haven't decided yet, and of course some liver care supplementing. Just not sure if chemicle the M1t is good along with the tren ....

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    thanks for the thoughts guys please keep them coming....

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    No man I dont think M1T and tren is a good idea. Its an oral and methylized, making it harder on your liver.

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    m1t isnt even test

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    hey mate.... IMO a 4-6 weeks cycle is not gonna work, you are going to stop the cycle when its begining to work......

    I would do
    1-12 week Test
    1-10 week Tren

    IF you dont have a source for test........

    FIND ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    so i understand that the M1t isn't necessarilly "ideal"...(hard on liver/not injectable), but which is worse, tren and M1t or tren alone?

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    the shutdown from tren is harsh enough, but M1T will turn your grapes to raisins in less than a week, talk about a bad combo. A lot of people who run tren without test say they are lethargic and tired with no libido and M1T is said to make you feel like death when ran alone so.... you do the math

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    so tren by itself then while not ideal, would be better than trying to sub real test with M1t? Is that the final answer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by philiioniyodealio
    so tren by itself then while not ideal, would be better than trying to sub real test with M1t? Is that the final answer?
    no, neither are ideal...no test=no cycle when looking to use tren . check out the lab forum, specifically the syno conversion.

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