Thread: Liver values are high!!
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10-06-2005, 04:11 AM #1New Member
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Liver values are high!!
I have done a cycle with test cyp and eq, with proper pct(nolva, clomid). I was on for 14 weeks. The pct ended 20th of July. This was my second cycle.
I was to my doc the other day to check my blood and it turned out that my liver values are 6 times higher than normal. I told my doc everything about the cycle but he was still worried because he thought that the values should have come back to normal already. He told me that he didnt know so much about AS and pct.
Now I wonder if I should be worried? I didnt use any liverprotection as milk thistle which was very stupid I guess! Does it make any difference if I start milk thistle now and at what doses?
Could anyone please help me???
BTW I am 35, and weigh about 85-90kg
Please anyone! the doc has really scared the shit out of me!
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10-06-2005, 04:25 AM #2Associate Member
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Originally Posted by kambo
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10-06-2005, 04:30 AM #3New Member
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Scotty shotty
I dont know the actual levels more than that they are 6 times the normal.
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10-06-2005, 06:11 AM #4Anabolic Member
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do u drink a loT? have any liver diseases like hepatitis?
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10-06-2005, 06:38 AM #5
I would be interested in reading the levels as well. Make sure if you find them you post a normal range, because some tests vary.
About three weeks after my last cycle my levels were in the high fifties. Between 1-50 was norm and 50-100 above what they should have been.
If your liver enzymes are six times the normal rate months after you stopped the roids you should be in contact with a specialist. Six times the normal rate is what people who need liver transplants have. I would go see an endocronologist immediately, do not pass go, do not collect 200$. I'd be looking for a problem outside the AS spectrum, but only a doctor can confirm that.
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10-06-2005, 06:43 AM #6Originally Posted by kambo
I have high liver enzymes myself, mainly due to a cycle involving winstrol and dbol. I got a produce called liver detox which I am using now during my test cycle. I am going to get my liver rechecked after this cycle/detox to note improvements.
I hope you get everything back to normal, and I hope I do too
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10-06-2005, 06:46 AM #7Junior Member
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I've had a high test result before without aas. Following test was normal as was all the following tests. Will you be tested again?
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10-06-2005, 06:54 AM #8
did u drink hard liquor the night before or a few days before. also it could be some other medical issue. stay on top of it bro.
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10-06-2005, 08:37 AM #9New Member
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Thank You everybody trying to help me!
I called my doc and got the results, they are as follows:
ALAT 2,56 normal range is 0,15-1,1
ASAT 6,8 normal range is 0,25-0,75
One and a half week before this test I drank pretty hard one night, but my doctor told me it couldnt gone up this high because of that.
I do not have any diseases and I do not drink more than maybe once a month.
My doctor is sending me to a specialist.
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10-06-2005, 08:40 AM #10Originally Posted by kambo
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10-06-2005, 09:01 AM #11
ive had values that high before, but never so long after a cycle. I know people that have had them even higher too. Get some Liv 52, it is far superior to milk thistle IMO. Tylers Liver Detox and R-ALA are also good for your liver.
Get tested for hepatitis too, that causes elevation of those values. Working out can cause elevation of those values too due to muscle breakdown when training. When training, your muscles can release those enzymes into your blood and can affect your values, especially if you have trained recently before a test. Now this isnt always the case, but it can happen.
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10-06-2005, 09:07 AM #12Associate Member
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The AAS is EXTREMELY UNLIKELY to be the cause of you elevated livery enzymes.
Don't take any supplements to lower them without first getting the okay from your physician. You need to find the root cause.
I'm sure that the specialist will know the best course of action so do not worry. I'm sure you'll be getting a full hepatic panel done soon enough to start.
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10-06-2005, 09:11 AM #13
Listen to your Doc, not us, like Mranak said, nothing goes in your system other than what your specialist says. Good luck bro, and keep us updated.
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10-06-2005, 11:38 AM #14Anabolic Member
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mine were 10x the normal level at 428. i was on winny without thistle and not much water intake. i did 4 weeks thistle and liver detox pills only. no vitamins, no amino, no aspirin. my values after 4 weeks came down to 50 range.
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10-06-2005, 02:17 PM #15Associate Member
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Originally Posted by Deezuhl
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10-06-2005, 09:29 PM #16Female Member
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By the way.... AST and ALT (used to be called SGOT and SGTP) values are more indicative of liver damage, rather than liver function. If they are high, there are a lot of reasons that they could be up that are either due to damage to your liver itself, or something completely unrelated. Of course, hepatitis is always a possibility, but having elevated bilirubin levels, having excessive blood product breakdown, having gallbladder problems...etc. can also cause GREAT increases in AST and ALT.
Has your doc checked your bilirubin, albumin, or alk phos levels? Those values are important in determining how your liver is also functioning.
Good luck! Keep us posted!
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10-07-2005, 01:17 AM #17
ALT and AST are going to be elevated if you lift weights, period.
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10-07-2005, 02:02 AM #18Originally Posted by mranak
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10-07-2005, 01:08 PM #19Associate Member
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Originally Posted by Maximus G
Orals, of course, don't do the liver any favors.
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10-07-2005, 04:51 PM #20Anabolic Member
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Originally Posted by mranak
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10-07-2005, 05:00 PM #21
What is your GGT level? That is more indicative of liver problems than AST or ALT
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10-07-2005, 05:10 PM #22Originally Posted by longhorn814
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10-07-2005, 11:02 PM #23Female Member
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Originally Posted by longhorn814
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10-07-2005, 11:07 PM #24Originally Posted by liftergirl
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