putting non sterile air in a juice vial

**smalldogbigdogbrain** · 10-08-2005, 11:34 AM

I havent seen this question being asked so i thought I would ask it. I am working with a 50ml bottle of test e, how many times can someone put air in to the vial with out things becoming contaminated. I have 30ml in this vial from my last cycle and was wondering if I should worry about it being sterile or not. thanks

**Pinnacle** · 10-08-2005, 11:41 AM

Why would you push air in the vial anyway?The plunger should be flush against the syringe housing to create a vacuum when drawing up the oil.

~Pinnacle~

**smalldogbigdogbrain** · 10-08-2005, 11:45 AM

Thats just how I have always done it, I thought it was the right way. Other wise it takes for ever to fill the syringe, if I can fill it at all.. You mean to tell my you dont put air in the vial and never have had this problem.

**eGGz** · 10-08-2005, 11:46 AM

I too am curious about this. Obviously when you draw from a vial outside air will get into the vial. Whether you intentionally put it in the vial prior to drawing or if it merely bubbles in past the needle when drawing.

**k_kingston** · 10-08-2005, 11:54 AM

i always thoguth you had to put the same amount of air in vs. the juice u are taking out, or it create a vacuu inside the bottle, making it difficult to withdraw.

**J*U*icEd** · 10-08-2005, 11:58 AM

i always push as much CCs of air into the vial as i take out in oil.... it's balances out the pressure from the atmosphere and the vaccuum in the vial.... makes drawing much much easier

**Pinnacle** · 10-08-2005, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by smalldogbigdogbrain

Thats just how I have always done it, I thought it was the right way. Other wise it takes for ever to fill the syringe, if I can fill it at all.. You mean to tell my you dont put air in the vial and never have had this problem.

I never have pushed air in a vial,and I never have a problem drawing out oil.

~Pinnacle~

**smalldogbigdogbrain** · 10-08-2005, 12:04 PM

while I have you guys on the horn here, I have another stupid question. Do you see any problems with switching from proviron to liquidx after 2 weeks. I dont want to buy more provi so i am finishing off what I have left..

**Pinnacle** · 10-08-2005, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by smalldogbigdogbrain

while I have you guys on the horn here, I have another stupid question. Do you see any problems with switching from proviron to liquidx after 2 weeks. I dont want to buy more provi so i am finishing off what I have left..

No problem switching bro...........

And think about this.Doctors/nurses use the same method to draw liquids out of vials as we do.Have you ever heard of anyone becoming infected with a infection due to this protocol?

~Pinnacle~

***G-1000*** · 10-08-2005, 12:08 PM

when you draw the air into the syringe the needle cap should be on. the chance of a air born virous or bactira getting in there is like one in a billion. also this is why the oil has ba in it. the ba should kill any thing that might get into the oil.

***G-1000*** · 10-08-2005, 12:09 PM

you have to replace the oil with air

**eGGz** · 10-08-2005, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by gsxxr

when you draw the air into the syringe the needle cap should be on. the chance of a air born virous or bactira getting in there is like one in a billion. also this is why the oil has ba in it. the ba should kill any thing that might get into the oil.

Thanks gsxxr, good to know.

**mranak** · 10-08-2005, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

I never have pushed air in a vial,and I never have a problem drawing out oil.

~Pinnacle~

Then your vial is getting air through the hole you made in the vial with the needle.

It gets to be more of a problem if you try and draw 3mL from a 10mL vial or something like that.

**mranak** · 10-08-2005, 01:43 PM

Even human grade gear has BA in it despite the fact that the gear is clean to begin with. This is to safely allow for a multiple use vial, which unsterile air and not 100% sterile needles are placed into the vial.

That's why single-use hCG comes with sterile water for injection (no BA) and multiple-use hCG vials come with bacteriostatic water (2% BA I think).