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    second cycle advice

    I'm getting ready to start my second cycle(First was 250 mg test eth./wk for 10 weeks and 50 mg d-bol/ed for 6 weeks). I was planning on doing a test, deca and winstrol cycle for my second. I was hoping somebody could give me some advice on what kind of test to use and what doses to use of the test and deca. I'm currently 5'10" about 184 lbs.

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    i would suggest test-e or cyp @500mg wk and the winny @50mg ed. never used deca .

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    I would go with Test E or Cyp @ 500mg/ew wks 1-14 and Deca @ 300mg/ew wks 1-12. I really dont like winny, but withh deca in thhere it'll lube up the joints. But the Test/Deca combo is a good cycle. Then your 3rd cycle you can use more gear, as your body becomes more "experienced" (and so do you) with the gear. JMO

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    test e 500mg wk for 14-16 wks
    deca 400mg wk for 13-15 wks
    if you want to do winny at it the last 5 wks at 50mg ed
    good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by abbot138
    I'm getting ready to start my second cycle(First was 250 mg test eth./wk for 10 weeks and 50 mg d-bol/ed for 6 weeks). I was planning on doing a test, deca and winstrol cycle for my second. I was hoping somebody could give me some advice on what kind of test to use and what doses to use of the test and deca. I'm currently 5'10" about 184 lbs.

    I was wondering how much LBM you gained off your first cycle? Did you shoot the test e once a wk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuildaBeast
    I was wondering how much LBM you gained off your first cycle? Did you shoot the test e once a wk?
    I was wondering the same - 250 / week sounds kinda low. I'm closing in on the end of 500 mg / week for 12 weeks (on week 9) and have put on 19 quality lbs. Very little bloat / water retention. Waist measurement still the same as when I started. So what were your results with 250 / week? Did you split that up into 2 doses?

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    I gained about 22 lbs. lots of water retention. But huge strength gains. I ran the test e @ 250 mg/wk for 10 weeks and didnt split the doses.

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    If i run 500mg/wk for my next cycle should i split it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abbot138
    If i run 500mg/wk for my next cycle should i split it up.
    yeah. shoot both your test and deca on the same day. e3d, Mon. morning and Thursday night. Test e or c would be the ester of test to go with. I'd leave out the winny as deca and test is more a bulking cycle. You could frontend load your cycle witht the winny. Here's what I'd do with what you've got...
    weeks 1-12: 250mg test e3d
    weeks 1-10: 200mg deca e3d
    weeks 12-17: 50mg winny ed

    PCT begins day after your last winny dose.

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    Why do you suggest deca stop a week or 2 short of the test?

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    Should i just not take the winnies at all. I know that the test and deca is a mass cycle but i thought that finishing with the winnies might help cut me up a little. I was hoping to not have as much of a bloated look as i did with my first cycle.

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    bump for this guy

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    Quote Originally Posted by sf77777
    Why do you suggest deca stop a week or 2 short of the test?
    So they match up in PCT and I believe also, to avoid the dreaded deca d***.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abbot138
    I gained about 22 lbs. lots of water retention. But huge strength gains. I ran the test e @ 250 mg/wk for 10 weeks and didnt split the doses.

    So you only shot once a wk?

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