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The most common saying on this forum "Must use test as a beginner...only test". So, I've read and read and read and typed and typed and you guys seem to be right. I have an 11 week supply of sus 250 and an 8 week supply of Deca. since this is my virgin cycle, I'm doing 250 a week for 8 weeks...no more...but where does deca @ 400/wk fit in?
Am I going to need to keep the test above the amount of deca per week? I read that but not 100%. Does that mean sus 500 a week and deca 400...isn't that a lot for a beginner? If it is 500 a week...how many weeks are necessary for sus?
first of all you're not going to see much if any gains with only 250 mg/week...as for you're question, you should start you're deca at the same time but you need to extend you're test a week or two past the deca.
definatly go with 500mg of sus and 400mg of deca ... this isnt alot for a novice ... this is the base line ... any less you will not get the results you're looking for ... post you're stats
If I had to take a hiatus from the gym...how long should I give myself (now being back in the gym) before I start the cycle? Also, how long would you cycle the sus...how many weeks? Lastly, will 20mg nolva be enough during the cycle...not including pct. Please reply
Oh yeah, can I add primo in there? I have a bunch of vials from a buddy. Is it worth it with sus and deca?
def. use sus and deca... i would take the deca for 8 weeks and the sus for 10 ... you need at least 10mg of nolva a day...and you'll need clomid for pct...as for the primo ...how much do you have and what are you're goals ... and also is this youre first cycle
def go with 500 mgs a week of the sus you wont see much with 250
everyone said it so i wontQuote:
Originally Posted by diezell
Ok but for how long (Weeks) as well as Deca?
Is it possible to do 5 weeks of sus 500 or is that too short?
Being that you are a novice you should've gotten a single ester test. Something like Test Cypionate or Enanthate.
Being that you have Sustanon. It will be difficult to keep blood levels stable being that you're not shooting EOD. What does that mean? Well that means you are open to more sides then usual like acne for example. Does this mean it will happen? NO. This means it could happen. You have one of two choices. Sell the Sustanon and get a single ester testosterone or take 500mg of Sustanon spread out into 2 shots a week with 300-400mg of Deca and you should be fine.
I am also doing that cycle just heavier doses.
Enjoy.
go with 10 weeks on sus and 8 weeks on deca ... start them at the same time ... nolva ed and clomid at the end ... i agree with massacre
Nolva 20mg ED from start to finish...not talking about pct
Nolvadex 20mg ED during cycle.
For PCT look up Pheedno's PCT on the search engine of this board and follow that.
Can I do sus at 500 every 10 days and deca at 400 a week?
I want to end this thread so reply when you can:
Week 1-10: sus 500/wk
Week 1-8: deca 300/wk
Week 1-10: Nolva 20mg/ED
I dont need hcg, right? Does this look good for a 1st cycle?
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Originally Posted by AIZ
You can do this but like I told you before split your sustanon into two shots. Monday 250mg and Thursday 250mg. You can take your Deca 300mg on Monday unless you want to split it which at such a low dose of Deca you really won't need to. Nolvadex 20mg ED throughout cycle.
I don't think HCG is needed but clomid for PCT certainly is.
You can do it your way or the right way. You choose but understand you will benefit more from the right way.
Either up your Deca dose to 400 mgs wkly and run it for 10 weeks.If not drop it from the cycle.For that length of time and dose,it won't do much for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by AIZ
~Pinnacle~
i agree i had the same cycle layed at at one point...now i've decided to run:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pinnacle
wk1-12: sus 500mg/wk (125mg eod)
wk1-10: deca 400mg/wk (200mg twice a week)
10mg nolva throughout cycle
start pct 18 days after last injection
day 1-21: 20mg nolva
day 1: 300mg clomid day 2-11: 100mg clomid day 12-21: 50mg clomid
this is how it should be ran. for a first cycle tho i would do sus 500mg/wk at 125mg eod for 12 weeks with proper pct. or test e at 400-500 mg/wk for 12 weeks with proper pct
gotta run the deca for atleast 10wks man, 8 will be a waist. the half life of that drug is 21days. sust 2xs a wk is fine considering the prop is only 30mgs/ml of sust......nothing to sweat over