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    ok...first cycle

    hey im new here but i feel like i no alot of u cuz ive been reading in these forums for about a year, but yeah im startin my first cycle, and i was just wondering how this sounded to u guys:
    CYCLE
    weeks 1-10 Test E 500 mg ew
    weeks 1-10 Dianabol 20 mg ed
    weeks 1-4 Nolvadex 10 mg ed
    PCT
    days 1-30 L-dex .25 mg ed
    days 1-30 Clomid 100 mg ed
    days 1-30 Nolvadex 20 mg ed
    days 1-30 Milk Thistle 1000 mg ed

    is there anything else i should have in my cycle or pct(like l-glutamine) to prevent sides and what not? what sides do u think i would see? what kind of gains? how many of the gains do u think i would keep? and when should i start my pct?

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    whoa whoa whoa. Easy on the 10 weeks of dbol . That can wreck your liver. It looks good besides that..Erase the dbol and youve got yourself a great looking cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stair-oids9899
    hey im new here but i feel like i no alot of u cuz ive been reading in these forums for about a year, but yeah im startin my first cycle, and i was just wondering how this sounded to u guys:
    CYCLE
    weeks 1-10 Test E 500 mg ew
    weeks 1-10 Dianabol 20 mg ed
    weeks 1-4 Nolvadex 10 mg ed
    PCT
    days 1-30 L-dex .25 mg ed
    days 1-30 Clomid 100 mg ed
    days 1-30 Nolvadex 20 mg ed
    days 1-30 Milk Thistle 1000 mg ed

    is there anything else i should have in my cycle or pct(like l-glutamine) to prevent sides and what not? what sides do u think i would see? what kind of gains? how many of the gains do u think i would keep? and when should i start my pct?

    I'm assuming you reversed the nolvadex and d-bol...
    Cycle looks decent though, although i would bump up the d-bol to 25-30mg imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chest6
    whoa whoa whoa. Easy on the 10 weeks of dbol. That can wreck your liver. It looks good besides that..Erase the dbol and youve got yourself a great looking cycle.
    Look at the nolvadex . It looks like it was just an error.

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    I'd bump the dbol up to 30mg ED and run it for the first 4 weeks just like chest6 suggested.

    Run the nolvadex @ 10mg ED for the first 10 weeks.

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    yeah sorry about that guys, i did reverse it. what i meant was
    weeks 1-10 nolvadex 10mg ed
    weeks 1-4 dianabol 20 mg ed

    but if u guys think i should bump up the dbol to 25-30 then i'll do that. any experience on how much of my gains i will keep off this cycle? and u think that what i already have there will be good enough for preventing estrogen related side effects?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ejuicer
    Look at the nolvadex. It looks like it was just an error.
    my bad guys..my eyes just kind of skipped over that. I would bump the nolva up to 30 and you could keep the nolva at 20..but I dont think you'll need that much with the ldex afterwards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stair-oids9899
    yeah sorry about that guys, i did reverse it. what i meant was
    weeks 1-4 dianabol 30mg ed
    weeks 1-10 nolvadex 10 or 20 mg ed (should be fine with 10)

    but if u guys think i should bump up the dbol to 25-30 then i'll do that. any experience on how much of my gains i will keep off this cycle? and u think that what i already have there will be good enough for preventing estrogen related side effects?
    haha you did it again...ill fix it for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by chest6
    my bad guys..my eyes just kind of skipped over that. I would bump the nolva up to 30 and you could keep the nolva at 20..but I dont think you'll need that much with the ldex afterwards.
    how much ldex should i take afterwards then?

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    Like this:

    CYCLE
    weeks 1-4 Dianabol 30 mg ed
    weeks 1-10 Test E 500 mg ew
    weeks 1-10 Nolvadex 10 mg ed
    weeks 1-14 L-dex .25 mg ed
    weeks 1-14 Milk Thistle 1000 mg ed

    PCT
    days 1-30 Clomid 100 mg ed
    days 1-30 Nolvadex 20 mg ed

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    Quote Originally Posted by eGGz
    Like this:

    CYCLE
    weeks 1-4 Dianabol 30 mg ed
    weeks 1-10 Test E 500 mg ew
    weeks 1-10 Nolvadex 10 mg ed
    weeks 1-14 L-dex .25 mg ed
    weeks 1-14 Milk Thistle 1000 mg ed

    PCT
    days 1-30 Clomid 100 mg ed
    days 1-30 Nolvadex 20 mg ed
    Perfect. That will eliminate any gyno symptoms you are worried about with the lower nolva dosage. Well done.

    Heres your cycle man right here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chest6
    haha you did it again...ill fix it for you
    lol thanks bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by chest6
    Perfect. That will eliminate any gyno symptoms you are worried about with the lower nolva dosage. Well done.

    Heres your cycle man right here.
    saweet, just one more question. when should i start the pct? the day after stopping all the gear?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eGGz
    Like this:

    CYCLE
    weeks 1-4 Dianabol 30 mg ed
    weeks 1-10 Test E 500 mg ew
    weeks 1-10 Nolvadex 10 mg ed
    weeks 1-14 L-dex .25 mg ed
    weeks 1-14 Milk Thistle 1000 mg ed

    PCT
    days 1-30 Clomid 100 mg ed
    days 1-30 Nolvadex 20 mg ed
    thanks man

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    Quote Originally Posted by stair-oids9899
    saweet, just one more question. when should i start the pct? the day after stopping all the gear?
    Start PCT 14 days after your last test injection.

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    k, thanks a lot guys. ill keep u posted on how it works out for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by stair-oids9899
    saweet, just one more question. when should i start the pct? the day after stopping all the gear?
    Anadrol /Anapolan: 24 hours after last administration
    Deca : 21 days after last injection
    Dianabol : 24 hours after last administration
    Equipoise : 21 days after last injection
    Fina: 3 days after last injection
    Primobolan depot: 14 days after last injection
    Sustanon : 18 days after last injection
    Testosterone Cypionate : 18 days after last injection
    Testosterone Enanthate: 14 days after last injection
    Testosterone Propionate : 3 days after last injection
    Testosterone Suspension : 24 hours after last administration
    Winstrol : 24 hours after last administration

    This should make things easier


    Reference Pheedno's "PCT start times" sticky

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