TEST-Prop + EQ stack question..

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10-21-2005, 07:23 PM
Steroider

TEST-Prop + EQ stack question..

1) for how long and @ what doses should i run test-prop if im gonna stack it with EQ @ 400mg/EW for 12 weeks?
2) can i stack test-en with these two components ? if yes for how long and @ what doses ?

goals : gain mass quality

30 / 6 feet / 115kg
10-21-2005, 07:44 PM
jnx3k

depends really on how bad ed shots are gonna be for you. first, you should always run test higher than your other compounds. So, if you are doing eq @ 400mg/wk, you should be taking 75mg/ed of prop. If you want to run test e, you would probably be better off using that for the whole cycle. Just shoot the eq and test e twice a week. Also, i would throw in the prop for about 4wks to jumpstart the cycle being that the test e takes 4-6 wks to "kick in". Also run the eq longer. That generally takes a good 8-9wks to "kick in". Your cycle should look like this:

test prop @ 50mg/ed wks 1-4
test e @ 500mg/wk wks 1-15
eq @ 400mg/wk wks 1-14
10-21-2005, 07:51 PM
Steroider

Quote:

Originally Posted by jnx3k

depends really on how bad ed shots are gonna be for you. first, you should always run test higher than your other compounds. So, if you are doing eq @ 400mg/wk, you should be taking 75mg/ed of prop. If you want to run test e, you would probably be better off using that for the whole cycle. Just shoot the eq and test e twice a week. Also, i would throw in the prop for about 4wks to jumpstart the cycle being that the test e takes 4-6 wks to "kick in". Also run the eq longer. That generally takes a good 8-9wks to "kick in". Your cycle should look like this:

test prop @ 50mg/ed wks 1-4
test e @ 500mg/wk wks 1-15
eq @ 400mg/wk wks 1-14

actually my 3rd cycle was test-e@500mg/EW + EQ@400mg/EW for 5 weeks and i loved the results , gained 7,5kg = 20Lps

this cycle im planning is my 4th , and im gonna Prop with it for more quality mass gaining
10-21-2005, 07:54 PM
TheMudMan

Do you have the Enan or are you asking if you can add it?
10-21-2005, 08:00 PM
Steroider

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMudMan

Do you have the Enan or are you asking if you can add it?

i do have it , now i know that i can stack them both with eq but for how long and @ what doses to score my goals !

2nd i may have tren-AC but im not so sure if its available now but if i have it im thinking of stack it to in weeks 8-14, would that be a bad idea ?
10-21-2005, 08:03 PM
jnx3k

i would think you'd be ok with the tren. just make sure you run the test higher. tren is known for shutitng ppl down hard/quick. so def keep it lower than your test. why dont you run the prop at the begining, and then run it at the end along with the tren?
10-21-2005, 08:09 PM
TheMudMan

I wouldn't run EQ no less then 600mg/wk and no less then 12 weeks. I have ran EQ in all but one of my cycles and I ahve seen better results running it higher and longer.

1 - 4 Prop 75mg ED
1 - 13 Enan 750mg /wk
1 - 12 EQ 600mg /wk
14 - 15 Prop 100mg ED
1 - 13 Letro .5mg ED
13 - 15 Nolva 20mg ED
13 - 15 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 3 days after last Prop injection
Day 1 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex
10-21-2005, 08:14 PM
Steroider

Quote:

Originally Posted by jnx3k

i would think you'd be ok with the tren. just make sure you run the test higher. tren is known for shutitng ppl down hard/quick. so def keep it lower than your test. why dont you run the prop at the begining, and then run it at the end along with the tren?

can u drop an example?
10-21-2005, 08:16 PM
TheMudMan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steroider

can u drop an example?

I wouldn't add the tren...... you have enough in that cycle as is.
10-21-2005, 08:19 PM
Steroider

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMudMan

I wouldn't run EQ no less then 600mg/wk and no less then 12 weeks. I have ran EQ in all but one of my cycles and I ahve seen better results running it higher and longer.

1 - 4 Prop 75mg ED
1 - 13 Enan 750mg /wk
1 - 12 EQ 600mg /wk
14 - 15 Prop 100mg ED
1 - 13 Letro .5mg ED
13 - 15 Nolva 20mg ED
13 - 15 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 3 days after last Prop injection
Day 1 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex

i cycled Enan @ 500mg/EW and i had good results and i know i suld raise Enan if im gonna raise EQ to 600mg/EW , but im not interested with raising the doses that high while i had a good results with lowre doses
10-21-2005, 08:20 PM
TheMudMan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steroider

i cycled Enan @ 500mg/EW and i had good results and i know i suld raise Enan if im gonna raise EQ to 600mg/EW , but im not interested with raising the doses that high while i had a good results with lowre doses

Lower the Enan to 600 and then the prop at the end to 75mg............ but if your running EQ that would be the minimum
10-21-2005, 08:21 PM
Steroider

i think i have to mention this is my 4th cycle and my 2nd bulking
10-21-2005, 08:25 PM
Steroider

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMudMan

Lower the Enan to 600 and then the prop at the end to 75mg............ but if your running EQ that would be the minimum

so u suggest to run
1-15 Enan@600mg/EW
1-14 EQ@600/mg/EW
1-15 prop@75mg/ED

correct me if im wrong
10-21-2005, 08:30 PM
TheMudMan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steroider

so u suggest to run
1-15 Enan@600mg/EW
1-14 EQ@600/mg/EW
1-15 prop@75mg/ED

correct me if im wrong

Yes..... you can still run the prop week 1 - 4 to get the cycle going a little faster.
10-21-2005, 08:35 PM
Steroider

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMudMan

Yes..... you can still run the prop week 1 - 4 to get the cycle going a little faster.

i think ill go with what u first suggested

1 - 4 Prop 75mg ED
1 - 13 Enan 750mg /wk
1 - 12 EQ 600mg /wk
14 - 15 Prop 100mg ED
1 - 13 Letro .5mg ED
13 - 15 Nolva 20mg ED
13 - 15 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 3 days after last Prop injection
Day 1 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex

much easyer , next question how can i stack tren-AC ( first time using ) with this cycle , ( planning to run tren@50mg/ED ) and for how long?
10-21-2005, 08:36 PM
TheMudMan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steroider

i think ill go with what u first suggested

1 - 4 Prop 75mg ED
1 - 13 Enan 750mg /wk
1 - 12 EQ 600mg /wk
14 - 15 Prop 100mg ED
1 - 13 Letro .5mg ED
13 - 15 Nolva 20mg ED
13 - 15 L-dex .25mg ED

Start PCT 3 days after last Prop injection
Day 1 - 30 100mg Clomid / 20mg Nolva / .25mg L-dex

much easyer , next question how can i stack tren-AC ( first time using ) with this cycle , ( planning to run tren@50mg/ED ) and for how long?

You can add it 1 - 12
10-21-2005, 08:44 PM
Steroider

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMudMan

You can add it 1 - 12

ed shot ?
10-21-2005, 08:45 PM
TheMudMan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steroider

ed shot ?

Yep..... also you will want to add 200mg of vitamin B6 ED through the cycle and PCT
10-21-2005, 08:52 PM
Steroider

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMudMan

Yep..... also you will want to add 200mg of vitamin B6 ED through the cycle and PCT

1 - 13 Letro .5mg ED
13 - 15 Nolva 20mg ED
13 - 15 L-dex .25mg ED

do i need HCG also ?
10-21-2005, 08:55 PM
TheMudMan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steroider

1 - 13 Letro .5mg ED
13 - 15 Nolva 20mg ED
13 - 15 L-dex .25mg ED

do i need HCG also ?

Would be wise to..... Run it through the cycle at 500iu 2 times per week 1 week out from PCT.
10-21-2005, 09:01 PM
Steroider

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMudMan

Would be wise to..... Run it through the cycle at 500iu 2 times per week 1 week out from PCT.

so i sould stop HCG @ week 14 ?

and shold i have B-6 all way with the cycle ( 1-15 )?
10-21-2005, 09:04 PM
TheMudMan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steroider

so i sould stop HCG @ week 14 ?

and shold i have B-6 all way with the cycle ( 1-15 )?

Yes..
and yes... also through PCT
10-21-2005, 09:07 PM
Steroider

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMudMan

Yes..
and yes... also through PCT

thanx for the help bro ..
10-21-2005, 10:23 PM
Steroider

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMudMan

Would be wise to..... Run it through the cycle at 500iu 2 times per week 1 week out from PCT.

so i run HCG weeks (1-14 ) 1000iu/week ?
10-22-2005, 06:11 AM
TheMudMan

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steroider

so i run HCG weeks (1-14 ) 1000iu/week ?

Yep......... I would run the HCG from the first week of the cycle. I would also split the doses up 500iu 2x per week so it would = 10000iu's total.
10-23-2005, 08:15 PM
Steroider

thanks for the help bro