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    needles,syringes,advice

    I'm doing test E 500mg 10wks 1st time and I don't know what needles/syringes to buy and how many. Need help here Bros

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    quads, delts and such 25 g 1". glutes 25g/23g 1.5"

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    Well if you're taking 2 shots a week for 10 weeks then you obviously need 20 pins.


    As shortie said 25g 1", I prefer the 23g 1.5" in the glutes. Dont like to sit there too long w/ the 25 waiting..

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    can you buy a needle/syringe combo and use a new one every time?

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    Quote Originally Posted by webber
    can you buy a needle/syringe combo and use a new one every time?

    Why would you even want to do that??? Needles cost like $.20 each.

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    just thought it might be easier to make sure everthing remains 100% sterile,even if it cost aliitle more. what do you think? Oh and what size syringe did you guys say?

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    Quote Originally Posted by webber
    just thought it might be easier to make sure everthing remains 100% sterile,even if it cost aliitle more. what do you think? Oh and what size syringe did you guys say?

    Depends what you're trying to inject along with what site

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    Tell me the gear and I'll tell you what size for what site

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    i would by a few extra 23g needles, to use to withdraw from the vial.

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    test e, probably shoot ass.

    I will be buying combo just need to know what size CC syringe. and you guys think 23 gauge 1"or1.5" for glutes. I can buy 25 combo needle/syringe for less then 8.00. will I need a seperate needle for extraction?

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    If you are shooting just in your glutes. Then use a 22/23 gauge 1.5". I prefer the 23g.

    Use a 18gauge 1.5" tip to draw. Makes the process fly by much quicker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tazwell
    i would by a few extra 23g needles, to use to withdraw from the vial.
    It's better off to go with a bigger size tip. So that when you draw it goes faster then to just sit there and wait for it to fill up.

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    okay bro can you tell me what cc syringe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by webber
    okay bro can you tell me what cc syringe?

    What CC syringe??? Most of the ones I see make 3cc syringes. I'm assuming you're doing 250mgs twice a week. So you only need enough room to hold 1cc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by webber
    okay bro can you tell me what cc syringe?
    3cc.

    I use a 20G for drawing the oil (kind wish I had bought 200 21G, but oh well) and then attach a 25G for injection.

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    get a bit more that 20 just in case you drop one or whatever

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    when you pierce the vial to draw up the gear, you make the needle more dull; also, most needles (BD for sure) have a silica coating on them which helps them glide into you instead of grinding into you; this silica coating is partially removed by piercing the vial. What I recommend is using 20 guage to draw up the drug, then draw all of the drug out of the needle completelely and into the barrel, then replace the 20g with a 25g and remove all air from the barrel and needle and you're ready to go; don't forget to aspirate , and if you're having troubles getting the test out of the syringe and into your muscle, try heating it up. Don't put it in the microwave, but you can let the vial sit in 1 inch of hot water for a few minutes until the viscosity has gone down. Also, never reuse needles. Check out this graphic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizz
    get a bit more that 20 just in case you drop one or whatever

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    Good idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montgomery
    when you pierce the vial to draw up the gear, you make the needle more dull; also, most needles (BD for sure) have a silica coating on them which helps them glide into you instead of grinding into you; this silica coating is partially removed by piercing the vial. What I recommend is using 20 guage to draw up the drug, then draw all of the drug out of the needle completelely and into the barrel, then replace the 20g with a 25g and remove all air from the barrel and needle and you're ready to go; don't forget to aspirate , and if you're having troubles getting the test out of the syringe and into your muscle, try heating it up. Don't put it in the microwave, but you can let the vial sit in 1 inch of hot water for a few minutes until the viscosity has gone down. Also, never reuse needles. Check out this graphic

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    Those are some good upclose pics. Good advice on the drawing. That's exactly what I said except I prefer the 18. Not much of a diff between the 2 though.

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