Needles...

**JerzeyBoy** · 10-25-2005, 04:23 PM

I bought a lot of needles for a test/deca cycle. A friend of mine who is more experienced with juice used one of those needles and told me it gave him a lot of pain. Mind you it's a brand new needle. He told me it wasn't the oil that was giving him the pain but the shot itself. He told me my best bet is to get diabetic needles...he said they are 100% painless and so much more easier.
Can someone give me some feedback on this??
thanks,
-JB

**righton** · 10-25-2005, 04:29 PM

It depends on the gauge(thickness) of the needle. A 18g nail...or needle i should say is going to hurt like a bitch compared to a 23 or 25g which is just a mosquito bite, or it could be your friends just a sissy!

**macrophage69alpha** · 10-25-2005, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by JerzeyBoy

I bought a lot of needles for a test/deca cycle. A friend of mine who is more experienced with juice used one of those needles and told me it gave him a lot of pain. Mind you it's a brand new needle. He told me it wasn't the oil that was giving him the pain but the shot itself. He told me my best bet is to get diabetic needles...he said they are 100% painless and so much more easier.
Can someone give me some feedback on this??
thanks,
-JB

what guage are your pins?

insulin pins are 27 or 29 guage. Most AS will go through a 25g. any thing bigger than 21g is going to hurt. 18g is for drawing of gear from the vial only,

**shortie** · 10-25-2005, 04:31 PM

Lots of gear will not flow thru the super small diameter slin pins (diabetic needles), some will, I would say you friend is a puss if you gave him a pin smaller than 23g it doesn't cause too much discomfort(I have shot a 21G with a little pain). But if you switch to 25g it will handle almost any gear and is relatively painless.

***SPIKE*** · 10-25-2005, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by JerzeyBoy

I bought a lot of needles for a test/deca cycle. A friend of mine who is more experienced with juice used one of those needles and told me it gave him a lot of pain. Mind you it's a brand new needle. He told me it wasn't the oil that was giving him the pain but the shot itself. He told me my best bet is to get diabetic needles...he said they are 100% painless and so much more easier.
Can someone give me some feedback on this??
thanks,
-JB

Wow and you say this guy is more experienced???

If you can fit oil through a 29 gauge pin you let me know. You'll have to be Popeye to squeeze oil out of that...

I'm assuming the pain was from the needle itself. Obviously the larger the pin the more the pain. As him saying it hurt less I"m sure it did, makes sense. I just dont know how he drew up oil in that.

**JerzeyBoy** · 10-25-2005, 04:36 PM

he told me the needles were so cheap that they hurt

**trisdog** · 10-25-2005, 04:36 PM

all my needles are 22g, Hurts a lil bit, But just take it like a man

**macrophage69alpha** · 10-25-2005, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by trisdog

all my needles are 22g, Hurts a lil bit, But just take it like a man

**RJstrong** · 10-25-2005, 06:43 PM

diabetic needles are for subQ injections (ie. hgh, insulin )... you need needles for IM injections... I prefer 23g 1 inch for delts and 22g 1 1/2 for glute injections... happy poking!

**IndianGodMan** · 10-25-2005, 06:57 PM

Man if it doesnt hurt you that much you got no problems. Who cares if some other dude said it hurts. I am sure the pins you have are fine? Have u even used them yet?

**devil1** · 10-25-2005, 07:04 PM

believe it or not, i have used insulin pins for oil. just took forever.

i use 25g for everything now.

**cb25** · 10-25-2005, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by JerzeyBoy

he told me the needles were so cheap that they hurt

it's *possible* though not overly likely. what brand **** did you use?? I've never gone wrong with BD or Terumo.

**TRICK** · 10-25-2005, 08:50 PM

are you gonna answer the question or not?

what gauge are your pins, also what length?

if you don't answer no one can help you.

***SPIKE*** · 10-26-2005, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by cb25

it's *possible* though not overly likely. what brand **** did you use?? I've never gone wrong with BD or Terumo.

For some reason BD is more expensive but I like the Terumos way more

***SPIKE*** · 10-26-2005, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by RJstrong

diabetic needles are for subQ injections (ie. hgh, insulin)... you need needles for IM injections... I prefer 23g 1 inch for delts and 22g 1 1/2 for glute injections... happy poking!

Diabetic needles dont necassarily need to be used Sub-q. I"ve gone IM many of times. For my IGF and sometimes Winny

**Perrypup** · 10-26-2005, 10:44 AM

Did he change pins after loading??? i do every time makes for a painless injection!
didnt see this question on this thread ..so that make a big difference also