Winstrol vs. anavar

**hondacrazy** · 10-26-2005, 12:17 AM

I have access to winny and anavar (both oral). Which is better for getting lean and not having to worry about PCT? I've heard that when taking winny alone on a 10 wk cycle, you don't need PCT...

Not trying to get bigger, I'm just trying to get really cut and lean for my vacation to Jamaica in Jan. I want to avoid taking any test with this cycle (if possible). Any suggestions?

**slitsoul13** · 10-26-2005, 12:19 AM

try searching, there is ton of info on winny vs var.. var is going to be rly expensive unless u have access to powder

**vitor** · 10-26-2005, 12:51 AM

I think winstrol is better!

**edmen2** · 10-26-2005, 01:45 AM

neither one of those compounds will cut u up only ur diet will. there is a common misconception of "cutting steroids " the only one that actually burns fat is tren but it all comes down to ur diet.

PT · 10-26-2005, 04:16 AM

i agree without proper diet and cardio you wont cut up. i've actually cut before with test, eq and tren . i know test is used mainly for bulking but i always use it in my cutting cycles as well so i can maintain my weight while dieting and doing cardio daily. winny and var will both harden you up if your already lean and your diet and cardio are in check but they wont burn fat by themselves. personally id shoot 50mgs of winny daily and take 40mgs of var a day if i were in your shoes but if you are stuck on only using one and there both orals i'd go with the var because winny pills never worked as well for me as the injectable did and i've always got great results from var.

**Timm1704** · 10-26-2005, 04:53 AM

ive never used var, but ive used winny tabs (british dragon) anything between 50-80mg per day, already had decent bulk and low bf, but the hardness and definition i gained in like 2 weeks was amazing. onlky go with the winny tabs for 6 weeks, preferably less though

**edmen2** · 10-26-2005, 05:58 AM

test should always be ur base. prop is perfect for a cutter!

**Ejuicer** · 10-26-2005, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by hondacrazy

I have access to winny and anavar (both oral). Which is better for getting lean and not having to worry about PCT? I've heard that when taking winny alone on a 10 wk cycle, you don't need PCT...

Not trying to get bigger, I'm just trying to get really cut and lean for my vacation to Jamaica in Jan. I want to avoid taking any test with this cycle (if possible). Any suggestions?

If you're just trying to take some fat off I wouldnt even bother with any gear. Neither are going to burn off the fat for you. You've got plenty of time before your trip, just work on a proper diet and cardio and you'll be fine.

**shortie** · 10-26-2005, 08:53 AM

If you just want to burn fat use clen with diet and cardio-and BTW both of the substances you mentioned would need PCT.

**dazbo** · 10-26-2005, 08:55 AM

according to hookers profiles I beleive, anavar DOES cause involuntary fat loss, so it will cut you up. But I do beleive diet and training are the main things still

**hondacrazy** · 10-26-2005, 08:58 AM

Thanks for all the great feedback. I know that diet and cardio are the obvious things to get right, but of course, I'm looking for an easier way that will still give me the freedom to eat what I want (within reason of course). I'm 220 lbs. 5'11", 25 years old, 18% BF. I think unless I completely cut carbs from my diet, there's no way I can look lean in 2.5 months.

If I do the anavar alone (50mgs/day), will it require PCT? Is 50mgs/day good for me or do I need more because of my weight?

**shortie** · 10-26-2005, 09:02 AM

Yes anavar alone will require PCT. 50 mg is not a bad dose but I think 60 is a touch better.IMO

**Dave321** · 10-26-2005, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by shortie

Yes anavar alone will require PCT. 50 mg is not a bad dose but I think 60 is a touch better.IMO

and 70 is even better than that!

**hondacrazy** · 10-26-2005, 03:32 PM

Yeah, I'm trying to avoid the need for PCT. What do guys think if I were to just go on clen for a 4 wk cycle beginning in the middle of November, then 2 wks off, then another 4 wk cycle around New Years? If I do this, then I will already have 1 cycle of clen in me and be at the beginning of my second...

Any suggestions?

**powerliftmike** · 10-26-2005, 03:39 PM

Winstrol is more powerful, but fvck's up your joints. Anavar is more mild and expensive. Anavar will lead to fatloss since it has appetite suppression properties.

**MuckDog** · 10-26-2005, 04:08 PM

i love var

i love lamp

**G-Force** · 10-26-2005, 04:22 PM

why is everyone saying var doesnt produce fat loss?
ther are plenty of studies that suggest that it does - look it up

its particularly good with abdominal fat and VAT (Visceral Adipose Tissue)

there is no fat loss with winny

**hondacrazy** · 10-26-2005, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by G-Force

why is everyone saying var doesnt produce fat loss?
i think you'll find it does - look it up

its particularly good with abdominal fat and VAT (Visceral Adipose Tissue)

there is no fat loss with winny

WOW, I never knew that its particularly good with abdominal fat. This sounds like it's perfect for me since that is the only part of my physique I hate...

Can I take the anavar by itself? If so, for how long and what kind of PCT should I do afterwards?

**aadrenaline** · 10-26-2005, 04:25 PM

uh oh...its starting, a reminder spring break is nearing

**raginredneck** · 10-26-2005, 04:33 PM

what about t-bol vs var

**Darkness** · 10-26-2005, 04:36 PM

Bro, just do it right the first time. PCT is not a 7 headed monster, plus you can buy it legally. Get prop and var. Clean your diet as per the cutting diet in the diet forum and you will be good to go in 2.5 months.

Later

**G-Force** · 10-26-2005, 04:37 PM

you can take it on its own if you want but it wont yield you tremendous gains or anything - just a little hardening up, increased vascularity (presuming you are reasonably low in BF)
much better with test prop

i'd throw in some clen too and/or ECA (NOT At the same time)

and u will need pct even if u do var only

**Darkness** · 10-26-2005, 04:37 PM

Ohh or you could just go into the darkside and use DNP . Used it once and lost 8lbs in one week. Didnt need to go for the 2nd.

Later

**G-Force** · 10-26-2005, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by Darkness

Bro, just do it right the first time. PCT is not a 7 headed monster, plus you can buy it legally. Get prop and var. Clean your diet as per the cutting diet in the diet forum and you will be good to go in 2.5 months.

Later

good point

var and clen will be pretty pointless if your diet isnt already sorted

**LoneLifter** · 10-26-2005, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by Darkness

Ohh or you could just go into the darkside and use DNP . Used it once and lost 8lbs in one week. Didnt need to go for the 2nd.

Later

Mmmm...DNP, some great results w/ some f@kd up sides. I so want to try it.

**Darkness** · 10-26-2005, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by LoneLifter

Mmmm...DNP, some great results w/ some f@kd up sides. I so want to try it.

Well DNP sides are what they are, you just have to suck it up and drink a lot of water/gatorade/multi v.

**hondacrazy** · 10-26-2005, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by Darkness

Ohh or you could just go into the darkside and use DNP . Used it once and lost 8lbs in one week. Didnt need to go for the 2nd.

Later

What is DNP?

**Ejuicer** · 10-26-2005, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by hondacrazy

What is DNP?

Anabolic Review Profile: DNP (2,4-dinitrophenol)

**goose** · 10-26-2005, 09:22 PM

I would love to try DNP ,I hate the sides with clen .How dangerous really is it? Is it over blown? I mean with slin we know how dangerous it can be.

goose4....

**hondacrazy** · 10-26-2005, 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by Ejuicer

Anabolic Review Profile: DNP (2,4-dinitrophenol)

Thanks for the link, Ejuicer. I will DEFINITELY pass on trying DNP . It's simply not worth the risk. I just have a little bit of a gut...I'm not that fat