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11-01-2005, 11:08 PM #1
*How Deca KILLED Test: The MYTH of TESTOSTERONE Necessity!*
http://www.*****************.com/for...ead.php?t=8577
Deca -Durabolin (Nandrolone Deconate) is HIGHLY progestenic and estrogenic. Using Deca by itself during a traditional 8-12 week cycle will likely result in sexual dysfunction. Thus, many years ago, bodybuilders began ADDING low dosages of TESTOSTERONE to their Deca cycles, as testosterone DRASTICALLY increases LIBIDO(However, you will still be SHUTDOWN). So the idea of adding testosterone to other anabolic compound stacks BEGAN with the occurence of "Deca Dick".
Deca Dick SCARED bodybuilders, and they figured, if Nandrolone can cause such sexual dysfunction, other anabolics could do so as well......
THIS IS FALSE. This is where the MYTH began. It perpetuated.
TEST does NOT need to be stacked with other mild anabolics like Primo, EQ, turinabol , winstrol , var, ect, as these drugs DO NOT CAUSE PITUITARY/TESTICULAR SHUTDOWN. *IF* LIBIDO loss does actually manifest itself(which is RARE with the protocols I reccomend), simply ADD PROVIRON .
http://www.*****************.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8577p=80003#post80003[/url]
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11-01-2005, 11:09 PM #2
Gaaaaahhhhh!!!
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11-01-2005, 11:11 PM #3AR's Midget Beater
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hahahahahahahahahaha
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11-01-2005, 11:12 PM #4AR's Midget Beater
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What do you think of Durabolin Ross? Deca Propionate ....
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11-01-2005, 11:12 PM #5Anabolic Member
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YESSS!!!! Another one! So ARE we IGNORING this ONE or NOT?
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11-01-2005, 11:13 PM #6
i have never met anyone else who was a bigger waste of time and space.
get a life ross, i have NO idea why you insist upon signing up under a new name and coming back to this site. if i had been banned...i would move on to another site -- find someplace that DOES accept my rants.
let it go brotha.
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11-01-2005, 11:14 PM #7AR's Midget Beater
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is it a bird? is it a plane? No wait, it's
STEROID MANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN !!!!!Last edited by Smak; 11-01-2005 at 11:17 PM.
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11-01-2005, 11:15 PM #8Anabolic Member
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Originally Posted by Smak
Caps are all wrong bro.... Gotta caps the useless words.
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11-01-2005, 11:15 PM #9AR's Midget Beater
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Originally Posted by cb25
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11-01-2005, 11:15 PM #10
The guy has a good point. Just dont understand why he keeps getting banned
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11-01-2005, 11:18 PM #11Originally Posted by stayinstacked
HOWEVER, he wasn't banned for his point of view. and i'm not sure why he was originally banned (though i've heard rumors). the reason he keeps getting banned, is because once you've been banned, you're not supposed to come back under a different name. if you've been banned, it's for a reason. once you're banned, you're supposed to be gone. Ross, meanwhile, decides to come back and quite openly talk about how it's him again.
he needs to be banned, because he CONTINUALLY breaks board rules. simple. nothing against his point of view (however wrong it is)
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11-01-2005, 11:19 PM #12AR's Midget Beater
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hehe when I wake up in the morning this thread will have grown to 3 pages already!
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11-01-2005, 11:20 PM #13
I only RETURN because of EMAILS from supportive A-R members who are afraid to voice their opinions PUBLICLY for fear of a typical FLAME circus that occurs here at A-R.
I am only here to HELP. I wish I had that years ago....
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11-01-2005, 11:22 PM #14Originally Posted by Anabolic Ross
however, you don't...and you come back in a very in-your-face-manner with your points...hence the public flame circus of your points.
believe it or not, many of us are here for the benefit of other members...personally, i'm just trying to dole out some rational advice to protect others from making the mistakes that others have made. in other words, i'm trying to protect them from people like you
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11-01-2005, 11:22 PM #15
I consider it somewhat enetertaining.
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11-01-2005, 11:23 PM #16AR's Midget Beater
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Originally Posted by 305GUY
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11-01-2005, 11:23 PM #17
Gaaaaahhhhh!!!
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11-01-2005, 11:27 PM #18
ANY responses to the ACTUAL thread?
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11-01-2005, 11:29 PM #19Originally Posted by Anabolic Ross
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11-01-2005, 11:31 PM #20
Yea...nice avator
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11-01-2005, 11:32 PM #21
**** that, the guy has a good point, test is not needed every cycle. I'm tired of all this trendy bullshit that goes on sometimes. For one, most guys are dropping their test out from a show anywhere from 2-6 wks out while continuing to run other anabolics such as var,primo, winny, EQ. Second off, for all those who think test needs to be run higher than ****ing everything, it doesnt. Nothing wrong at all w/ a couple hundred more mg of EQ than test, or winny, or primo, or anavar , etc etc. Everything I've read from this guy sounds like he has experience and knows exactly whats likely to have negative sides and what isnt. It sounds like he's practiced what he's preached. I dont know why the guy originally got banned, but I'm willing to bet he's the real deal and not one of these dumbasses who talks the lingo then posts a pic of a physique that could have easily been achieved naturally, or talks the talk and has never even touched steroids in his life. If you want my honest opinion, this board needs more guys like him!! The trendy bullshit here is the circus act, not him.
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11-01-2005, 11:33 PM #22Originally Posted by Anabolic Ross
If, indeed, you are trying to help people, you need to change up your approach. Don't come back with a very in-your-face attitude about this, and so blatantly declare that it's you again.
Come back completely anonymous, with actual evidence and research to back it up (and come with links, etc to prove it's not just you talking). You won't be able to have a civil discussion with the majority of the members here until you do that.
Until you do that, no one is going to take you seriously, because everyone knows it's you, and everyone knows your M.O.
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11-01-2005, 11:35 PM #23
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 11 (10 members and 1 guests) Narkissos, Joey2ness, 305GUY, cb25, JUICING, jaydub, fLgAtOr, Liftnainez, ryan9101, stayinstacked
Any bets on how many pages this thread reaches?
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11-01-2005, 11:35 PM #24Originally Posted by stayinstacked
if you have 1000 post in your name they most likely ban him or you
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11-01-2005, 11:36 PM #25
stayinstacked -- he has arguments that *sound* good. but there's no real evidence to back them up.
the reasons that we recommend test in every cycle have everything to do with long-term health as long as health on cycle. we're trying to maximize the things we want in life -- health, strong libido, etc.
and while i'm thinking of it...MODS, i think it may be time for an IP ban for this guy. i know BDTR was the king of all that, and even though he's gone, i'm sure some of you can take care of that.
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11-01-2005, 11:36 PM #26Originally Posted by Narkissos
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11-01-2005, 11:39 PM #27
It is plain and simple--EVERYTHING I RECCOMEND I have DONE MYSELF!
Some have seen my pics from last YEAR, when I was around 200lbs, 6% BF, 5''10(They are on the board) I am now much bigger. I will be posting new pics shortly.
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11-01-2005, 11:40 PM #28Originally Posted by stayinstacked
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11-01-2005, 11:40 PM #29Originally Posted by cb25
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11-01-2005, 11:40 PM #30
was he banned for his views or the way he expresses himself? It seems to me everybody hates him b/c hes "cocky" - WHO CARES!?!? I think hes rather funny than arrogant.. he does provide some good points.. i dont know why people take things so personally.. if you dont like him, dont speak to him.. not trying to start shit - just trying to rectify a situation..
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11-01-2005, 11:41 PM #31
**I always reference STUDIES where appropriate**
Everything I advocate is supported by EVIDENCE--scientific AND anecdotal.
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11-01-2005, 11:41 PM #32Originally Posted by 305GUY
i'm just saying he should be taken care of
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11-01-2005, 11:44 PM #33Originally Posted by Liftnainez
but i have a problem with a person who broke board rules enough to get banned (he says he was banned b/c of his point of view...there was more to it than that) -- but then continues to break rules by signing up under different names. seems to me he's looking for attention.
like i said, there are more tactful ways to get a point across. he chooses to be very antagonistic about it, and call all this negative attention to himself. he wishes to make himself a martyr for the anti-testostorone cause. and we're playing right into that.
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11-01-2005, 11:45 PM #34
In order to make a point, you must make alot of noise.....
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11-01-2005, 11:46 PM #35
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11-01-2005, 11:47 PM #36Originally Posted by cb25
Ok, let me hit you with this then. An abundance of almost all steroids ARE a derivative of test. Wheres the evidence that shows that actual test IS NEEDED every cycle? I mean, I'm not trying to strike up an argument here, but almost every person on this board thinks that test is an absolute must have to every cycle and he's right, its not. Do you know how many books and steroids bibles have been produced that had numerous cycle examples without test? Regardless of wether its test in your cycle or whatever it is, if your shut down your shut down, and if your dick dont work then it doesnt work. Long term health and libido have nothing to do with what he's explained. Almost any bodybuilder dosage of anabolics will shut you down over time. I just dont see why everybody is jumping his shit. All this scientific crap can often make message boards boring. This is the science right here bro, we are the experiments. I'm sorry that most dont agree on this issue, and I dont know why the guy was originally banned, but all I'm saying is try to respect others opinions and dont flame just for the hell of it. And personally, I dont see anything "in your face" or disrespectful at all about his post here.
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11-01-2005, 11:48 PM #37Originally Posted by stayinstacked
BRILLIANT POST!
Tremendous insight!
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11-01-2005, 11:49 PM #38Originally Posted by Anabolic Ross
seriously, come back anonymously. you have to remember that most people aren't going to even give your argument a second thought if they know that it is you.
come back more tactfully if you truly believe in your cause. after you've turned some heads and made some people re-consider their thought should you come out and say "oh btw, i'm ross, and i was right all along" -- the way you're doing it right now is ineffective and annoying at best.
i have a hard time believing you're doing this solely for the benefit of others and the advancement of anabolic science, based on your approach. you would speak volumes about your character and argument if you took some of my advice.
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11-01-2005, 11:50 PM #39
I agree with that completely
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11-01-2005, 11:50 PM #40Originally Posted by cb25
Well said.
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