Longest cycle without requiring.....

**305GUY** · 11-15-2005, 07:40 PM

HCG . is it 14 weeks? Thanks in advance.

**Pinnacle** · 11-15-2005, 07:53 PM

Hard to give an answer on that one.Some ppl(like myself)get no testicular atrophy on cycles,where as other shrink up like frozen peas.

It depends on the compound as well.Deca /Fina will cause the most atrophy from my experience.

~Pinnacle~

**305GUY** · 11-15-2005, 07:56 PM

Wow your a lucky man. No testicular atrophy?!? i didnt even know that was possible, atleast with longer cycles i didnt.

**TheMudMan** · 11-15-2005, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by 305GUY

Wow your a lucky man. No testicular atrophy?!? i didnt even know that was possible, atleast with longer cycles i didnt.

I look at a bottle of test and my balls shrink to the size of peas

So as Pinnacle stated it depends on the person mostly and then what is being ran

**305GUY** · 11-15-2005, 08:01 PM

I'm going to be running test E and front loading with prop but i cant decide how long to run the test E. I dont want to need HCG . any thoughts.

Edit: and winny last 6 weeks.

**BUYLONGTERM** · 11-15-2005, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

Hard to give an answer on that one.Some ppl(like myself)get no testicular atrophy on cycles,where as other shrink up like frozen peas.

It depends on the compound as well.Deca /Fina will cause the most atrophy from my experience.

~Pinnacle~

Man, I'm the same way bro. I have done 2g of test and my boys barely shrink and my last cycle lasted 1 1/2 years!!!!

**Pinnacle** · 11-15-2005, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by TheMudMan

I look at a bottle of test and my balls shrink to the size of peas

Dammmm

~Pinnacle~

**wolfyEVH** · 11-15-2005, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by 305GUY

I'm going to be running test E and front loading with prop but i cant decide how long to run the test E. I dont want to need HCG . any thoughts.

Edit: and winny last 6 weeks.

you're not going to "NEED" HCG. It can help on longer cycles and cycles w/ deca /tren , however its never necessary. clomid/nolva are far more important

***JohnnyB*** · 11-15-2005, 08:17 PM

Here's something to consider, PCT will bring the boys back to life, but that's going to take 1-2 weeks, then the SERM will help the testes to produce test. So if you don't use HCG , you'll need more time on PCT to get your normal test levels back. How many people have posted they didn't recover after 3-4 weeks of PCT. I always recommend doing PCT until your sex drive is back, without HCG it'll be a longer time for recovery.

HCG isn't a must, it's a help in the recovering of your test levels, it speeds up that recovery process

JohnnyB