***my first short cycle. whattcha think?***

[testosterona]

wk 1-8 test prop 75mgs ed
wk 1-8 NPP 75mgs ed
wk 3-8 anavar 50mgs ed
PCT:
wk 9-10 nolva 40mgs
wk 11-12 nolva 30mgs

thinking of going for short cycles from now on. i'm getting more concerned with longer cycles and the shutdown that comes with it. might be throwing in tren though instead of the NPP as this will be my 3rd cycle.

[chest6]

why not run the prop a week longer and maybe you can hit 100mg ed??

[MuckDog]

i like it - although im not familiar with NPP? as u know i love var so im happy to see that in anyones cycle. i go with 60mgs there at all x though

[steph_chip]

It's good for that short cycle and as you think I will take TREN instead of the NPP if you can handle the side!! That's a pretty good short cycle to tight that muscle!!

[testosterona]

why not run the prop a week longer and maybe you can hit 100mg ed??

well, i'm trying to keep it short as possible. also, i want to get away with 500mgs test a wk for as long as possible. 700mgs is tempting though.

well, know that i think about it. i'm running 600mgs wk now, so 700mgs would prob be the way to go.

[steph_chip]

Yes like cheat6 said bump to 100mg/day!!!!

[testosterona]

what about the tren a dose for a first timer. 50mgs a day??

[steph_chip]

My first was 75 EOD, after a few week I jump to 125mg EOD but now I'll do 75 ED so ....start with 50 ED and if it's ok try 75mg ED

[chest6]

what about the tren a dose for a first timer. 50mgs a day??

yup start w/ 50 to see how you react..

[Gra]

wk 1-8 test prop 75mgs ed
wk 1-8 NPP 75mgs ed
wk 3-8 anavar 50mgs ed
PCT:
wk 9-10 nolva 40mgs
wk 11-12 nolva 30mgs

thinking of going for short cycles from now on. i'm getting more concerned with longer cycles and the shutdown that comes with it. might be throwing in tren though instead of the NPP as this will be my 3rd cycle.

I think my next cycle will look something like this, but with tren instead of NPP. Hopefully I can get some prop that doesn`t hurt like hell. Let me know how your cycle goes

[305GUY]

wk 1-8 test prop 75mgs ed
wk 1-8 NPP 75mgs ed
wk 3-8 anavar 50mgs ed
PCT:
wk 9-10 nolva 40mgs
wk 11-12 nolva 30mgs

thinking of going for short cycles from now on. i'm getting more concerned with longer cycles and the shutdown that comes with it. might be throwing in tren though instead of the NPP as this will be my 3rd cycle.

Why no clomid in PCT?

[powerliftmike]

I would shoot 700mg/wk @ 100mg/dy of prop for 6 weeks (you wanted it short). You could take var the whole time.

[testosterona]

Why no clomid in PCT?

i might throw it in there. i used nolva w/ great success last PCT. i' might try it out this cycle since it is a little longer. but, i figured with ann 8 wk cycle, nolva only will be fine.

[testosterona]

I would shoot 700mg/wk @ 100mg/dy of prop for 6 weeks (you wanted it short). You could take var the whole time.

6wks would be nice:
6wks prop 100mgs ed
6wks var 50mgs ed
6wks tren a 50mgs ed
PCT;

somethin like that. or maybe replace the prop w/ suspension

[punchrf]

6wks would be nice:
6wks prop 100mgs ed
6wks var 50mgs ed
6wks tren a 50mgs ed
PCT;

somethin like that. or maybe replace the prop w/ suspension

i'm not sure that tren would have ample time to kick in. it didn't kick in full swing for me till week 3 but was going strong through week 9.

[Lunacy]

When was your last cycle and when do you plan on doing this one test?

[testosterona]

really? i had heard it kicked in pretty quickly. hmmmm?

[punchrf]

really? i had heard it kicked in pretty quickly. hmmmm?

i'm sure it's effects will kick in sooner but thats when i really noticed that it had kicked in. it may kick in faster for you though. try it out and see where it gets you. i've never messed with short cycles. always leaned more toward the 20+ weekers.

[testosterona]

ya, i'm just worried about being on trt for the rest of my life. i would prefer not to deal with the depression and other sides that come with permanently low test levels.

[punchrf]

ya, i'm just worried about being on trt for the rest of my life. i would prefer not to deal with the depression and other sides that come with permanently low test levels.

my test levels returned to a little above normal after 4 months right after the last cycle i took. wierd but i had the same concerns you do but ignored them.

[testosterona]

what's your "above normal score?"

[steph_chip]

6wks would be nice:
6wks prop 100mgs ed
6wks var 50mgs ed
6wks tren a 50mgs ed
PCT;
That was too short for me, I better like to do 1 or cycle a year but longer and rest longer between. I think you will not have time to get a good result, a good pump but that all i think

[monstercojones]

xxxxx

[testosterona]

xxxxx

wtf does this mean?

[needbigguns]

Just an idea but how about this for a short cycle with fast acting compounds :

Dbol @ 50mg ED week 1-2
Anadrol @ 100mg ED week 2-4
Winny @ 50mg ED week 4-6 - Mainly To reduce SHBG
Tren A @ 75mg ED Week 2-5
Prop @ 100mg ED 1-6 Weeks
Mastron/Proviron @ 100mg ED 1-6 Weeks
HCG 1500iu's/Week

Nolva/Clomid PCT

(Im going to switch up orals after 2 weeks - keep the body guessing )

[NYC BIG MIKE]

what about the tren a dose for a first timer. 50mgs a day??

Assuming you have a few cycles under your belt, Tren A is best run minimally 2x a week and 3x if you can handle the aggression. I used to run 150 ED when I wore a younder man's clothes.

[needbigguns]

is it really bad for aggression ? I may have to get rid of my GF before i start tren as i cant cope with her whining now and im currently off ! God knows how aggressive she'l make me on tren

[NYC BIG MIKE]

Let's just say that it can make you edgy. Sometimes the difference between 150 mgs and 225 mgs is like jekyll and hyde.

[Smak]

That cycle is exactly what i'm running this summer. You should see some nice gains from it even with 8 weeks. Hell, I might even cut mine short like this also. I want to see if these so called short cycles work for future reference.

200mg Prop EOD is what i'm doing though. ED shots with prop aren't very pleasant.

[Smak]

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[needbigguns]

What do you guys think about switching up orals every 14 days ? 14 days of D-bol the gains can be quite significant @ 50mg ED, and 100mg anadrol ED for 14 days is also very effective...I dont think il see much in terms of the winstrol gains wise but its there mainly to lower SHBG hence the reason its in the last 2 weeks

[sadukar]

What do you guys think about switching up orals every 14 days ? 14 days of D-bol the gains can be quite significant @ 50mg ED, and 100mg anadrol ED for 14 days is also very effective...I dont think il see much in terms of the winstrol gains wise but its there mainly to lower SHBG hence the reason its in the last 2 weeks

have you looked into the supplement activate? I haven't thought of using it on cycle yet, but some people have decent success while off cycle. It's produced by d e s i g n e r s u p p l e m e n t s, check it out.

[NYC BIG MIKE]

have you looked into the supplement activate? I haven't thought of using it on cycle yet, but some people have decent success while off cycle. It's produced by d e s i g n e r s u p p l e m e n t s, check it out.

Just looked it up. It's shit. Anything else you wanna know?

http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/design/act.html

[sav14]

Just an idea but how about this for a short cycle with fast acting compounds :

Dbol @ 50mg ED week 1-2
Anadrol @ 100mg ED week 2-4
Winny @ 50mg ED week 4-6 - Mainly To reduce SHBG
Tren A @ 75mg ED Week 2-5
Prop @ 100mg ED 1-6 Weeks
Mastron/Proviron @ 100mg ED 1-6 Weeks
HCG 1500iu's/Week

Nolva/Clomid PCT

(Im going to switch up orals after 2 weeks - keep the body guessing )

I've never done a cycle before, but i have in my possession D-BOl orals, Anadrol Liquid, and Liquid OMIFEN. Is there a cycle I can do with these? maybe switching on & off b/t D-BOL and Anadrol...?

[NYC BIG MIKE]

Next.

[needbigguns]

One of my responses to a post was SPAM and the other UNEDUCATED bullshit...

Once again can someone answer my question :

What do you guys think about switching up orals every 14 days ? 14 days of D-bol the gains can be quite significant @ 50mg ED, and 100mg anadrol ED for 14 days is also very effective...I dont think il see much in terms of the winstrol gains wise but its there mainly to lower SHBG hence the reason its in the last 2 weeks