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    Front-loading Question

    Thanks to the wisdom gleaned from this board, I'll be starting my 1st cycle soon--Test E only,500mg/wk for 12wks, with proper PCT of course. I hear that the long esters don't really kick in til bout 4-6 wks, so I was looking to jumpstart the cycle either by 1) doubling first week dose to 1000 mg of E, or 2) doing 1-2wks of Test prop @ 100mg EOD. I also want to protect the boys from atrophy by sneaking in alittle HCG every 4th week....So,..

    Week 1-2 Test P @ 100mg EOD
    Week 1-12 Test E @ 500mg/wk (m,th)
    WeeK 1-12 a-dex 0.25mg/day

    Weeks 4,8,12,13 HCG 2000i.u. x 1
    Week 14-17 Clomid 100->50mg.
    Week 12-17 Nova 20mg/day

    Any thoughts or comments? Mainly asking about the frontloading and the intra-cycle HCG. Thanks.

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    Looks pretty good to me, I don't know if you need the HCG on that short of a cycle, IMO HCG doesn't usually need to be run on cycles shorter than 16 wks depending on the user. And I don't like running HCG intra cycle on shorter cycles. If you do use the HCG break your doses down smaller to 250IU ed or 500 IU eod.

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    Either way you frontload is fine. The Prop just kicks in faster.
    HCG ...I'd suggest on more frequent use. Not every 4 weeks. Start it up about mid cycle and run anywhere from 250-500iu twice a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8pak
    Thanks to the wisdom gleaned from this board, I'll be starting my 1st cycle soon--Test E only,500mg/wk for 12wks, with proper PCT of course. I hear that the long esters don't really kick in til bout 4-6 wks, so I was looking to jumpstart the cycle either by 1) doubling first week dose to 1000 mg of E, or 2) doing 1-2wks of Test prop @ 100mg EOD. I also want to protect the boys from atrophy by sneaking in alittle HCG every 4th week....So,..

    Week 1-2 Test P @ 100mg EOD
    Week 1-12 Test E @ 500mg/wk (m,th)
    WeeK 1-12 a-dex 0.25mg/day

    Weeks 4,8,12,13 HCG 2000i.u. x 1
    Week 14-17 Clomid 100->50mg.
    Week 12-17 Nova 20mg/day

    Any thoughts or comments? Mainly asking about the frontloading and the intra-cycle HCG. Thanks.

    The test Prop will give you a jump start........ run it weeks 1 - 4 at 50mg ED or the 100mg EOD as you have it.

    This cycle is pretty mild so you don't really need HCG unless you have seen a lot of atrophy from other cycles...... if so the run 500iu 2 times a week through the cycle a week out from PCT.

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    the front looks fine to me and the hch id leave towards the end of the stack, nice little cycle

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    IMO your better off runnin' the prop for the first 2-3wks. Prop should start to kick in by the end of the first week. Doubling your dose of enth won't make much difference. It may kick in a week early but IMO jump starting is a better option.

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    Thanks, all. I think I'll go w/ prop for 3-4 wks, and hold off on HCG til PCT, if at all. Gonna order my gear today, and I can't f***in wait!! Later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8pak
    Thanks, all. I think I'll go w/ prop for 3-4 wks, and hold off on HCG til PCT, if at all. Gonna order my gear today, and I can't f***in wait!! Later.

    Don't run HCG durring PCT.......... you will not recover.

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