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    2nd Cycle

    I am about to start my 2nd cycle after 15 weeks of waiting since the end of my first cycle.

    My stats:
    Weight : 165lbs
    Height: 170cm

    Workout program:
    3 times a week (one bodypart per week)

    Food:
    Could be eating too much (sometimes i get a bit fat)

    Sleep:
    7-7.5hrs per day

    Previous cycle (1st) 15-week:
    Testoviron Depot 500mg/week for 10 weeks (without Nolva during cycle)
    PCT Clomid (last 3 weeks) and Nolva (last 5 weeks)

    2nd Cycle 15-week:
    Testoviron Depot 500mg/week for 10 weeks
    Deca 200mg/week for 10 weeks
    D-bol 30mg/day for 4 weeks
    Nolva 200mg/day and Vit B6 100mg/day to be taken each day during cycle
    PCT Clomid (last 3 weeks) and Nolva

    Please comment on my 2nd cycle as i want to make full use of it. I've heard that Deca may be hard on libido but is the best steroid for keeping gains. Also, that more than 200mg/day of Vit B6 is just too toxic.

    As this is my first time to try using Nolva during cycle, i'm just wondering if it would lessen the anabolic effects of the roids. My previous 1st cycle, i did not take Nolva during cycle and i had no problems at all, except feeling slightly bloated at times.

    I still didn't get as big as I want to be. I'm just not sure what I should balance in my program. I used to lift heavy but i noticed most muscular dudes lift not so heavy.

    Last question, this is also my first to stack 2 roids. Do I split them into 2 sessions and extract both juices into the same syringe? Would there be any chemical reaction when both roid are mixed and rendered the roids less effective?

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    extend ur test 2 more weeks , i think u mean 20 mg of nolva not 200 , use 2oo mg of b6 daily better than 100 mg .
    if ur note prone to gyno so 10 mg of nolva will b good
    u can splite ur shoots twice a week & u can mix them with no any harmfull chimical reactions
    but u should explaine more ur pct to us

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    welcome to AR bro

    nice name by the way

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    Quote Originally Posted by hosam4ever
    extend ur test 2 more weeks , i think u mean 20 mg of nolva not 200 , use 2oo mg of b6 daily better than 100 mg .
    if ur note prone to gyno so 10 mg of nolva will b good
    u can splite ur shoots twice a week & u can mix them with no any harmfull chimical reactions
    but u should explaine more ur pct to us


    Guys, thanks for the welcome.

    About extending test...thing is, i have gotten all the test and Dbol . Getting the Deca soon. So, can I shorten the deca instead of extending the test? What is the purpose of this? Is it for libido?

    Heh heh...yeah it's 20mg of Nolva. As for B6, i've read elsewhere that 200mg is just too toxic. And i found this from the forum too:
    Can Vitamin B-6 be dangerous?

    I don't think i'm prone to gyno but i do get bit puffy on my first cycle without Nolva. That's why i thought if i use 20mg Nolva each day during cycle, it'll keep the puffiness away. Then again, I've read somewhere that Nolva increases progesterone receptors, which is not good when taking Deca. Arghh...so much to balance...

    I plan to do my PCT as follows:
    After week 1 - 10 on the juice,
    week 11 & 12 : just Nolva 20mg/day
    week 13 : Clomid 300mg day 1, 100mg day 2-7 + Nolva 20mg/day
    week 14 : Clomid 100mg day 1-4, 50mg day 5-7 + Nolva 20mg/day
    week 15 : Clomid 50mg day 1-7 + Nolva 20mg/day

    Has anyone use Deca with good and bad results? Do tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stockyone
    Guys, thanks for the welcome.

    About extending test...thing is, i have gotten all the test and Dbol . Getting the Deca soon. So, can I shorten the deca instead of extending the test? What is the purpose of this? Is it for libido?

    Heh heh...yeah it's 20mg of Nolva. As for B6, i've read elsewhere that 200mg is just too toxic. And i found this from the forum too:
    Can Vitamin B-6 be dangerous?

    I don't think i'm prone to gyno but i do get bit puffy on my first cycle without Nolva. That's why i thought if i use 20mg Nolva each day during cycle, it'll keep the puffiness away. Then again, I've read somewhere that Nolva increases progesterone receptors, which is not good when taking Deca. Arghh...so much to balance...

    I plan to do my PCT as follows:
    After week 1 - 10 on the juice,
    week 11 & 12 : just Nolva 20mg/day
    week 13 : Clomid 300mg day 1, 100mg day 2-7 + Nolva 20mg/day
    week 14 : Clomid 100mg day 1-4, 50mg day 5-7 + Nolva 20mg/day
    week 15 : Clomid 50mg day 1-7 + Nolva 20mg/day

    Has anyone use Deca with good and bad results? Do tell.

    Hi, can anyone tell me if it's ok to shorten Deca instead of extending Test?

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