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11-12-2005, 04:21 AM #1
Oxandrolone Side effect
I wonder will Oxandrolone make me loose my hair.. I´ve read that hairloss is coused by activation of the AR receptor in the scalp (mostly by DHT) I know Oxandrolone is a DHT derivate but It´s not so androgenic So how bad can it be?? will finastride/ proscar help?? Please help Guys
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11-12-2005, 06:26 AM #2
Nah you'll still be a pretty boy dude
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11-12-2005, 08:53 AM #3
Yeah, you will be fine. Don't expect to much from var only tho. It works infinitely better in stacks.
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11-12-2005, 09:16 AM #4Anabolic Member
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For someone very prone to hairloss var will have some effect! The androgen recepter in the scalp is the same as the one in the muscle.
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11-12-2005, 11:23 AM #5Member
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Originally Posted by vitor
so does that mean the more prone you are to hair loss the more muscle it should put on you?
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11-12-2005, 12:05 PM #6Originally Posted by elite2kr
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11-12-2005, 04:18 PM #7Originally Posted by Big M
from oxa not much muscle.
add deca .
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11-13-2005, 09:17 AM #8
Thank you guys feel better now, I´m 20 years old and all my relatives are bald. Nightmare to loose hair!! Think I´m seeing my harline heading backwards Is avodart better than finasterid? and has anyone tried that rogaine stuff?
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11-14-2005, 05:03 AM #9
If your strength or speed is important to you, don't take any DHT lowering drugs, since DHT is important for neural drive.
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11-14-2005, 12:02 PM #10Originally Posted by FlyByU
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11-14-2005, 12:31 PM #11
you can lower your dht and take 50-100 of proviron (mesterolone).
with 50-100 mg there is no acne,nor balding.
and there is strength.
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11-17-2005, 02:15 PM #12Originally Posted by fred9
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11-17-2005, 10:31 PM #13Associate Member
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Originally Posted by oswaldosalcedo
Big M - if all the males in your family have receding hairlines, it is only a matter of time before you do also. especially if you are seeing temple recession at 20 y/o.
i didnt start to see anything til i was 25 on my first cycle. now i use gear that is very hairline-friendly - deca , tbol, var, EQ and of course test with dutasteride...and by the way, dutasteride will prevent 5AR reduction of all steroids , so it'll prevent DHN (debatably better than deca on MPB) and 1-T (definitely worse for your hair than EQ) respectively..and of course DHT which is the main culprit. basically any drug with alot of androgenicity that cant be impacted by 5AR reduction will hurt your hairline - tren , masteron , primo (maybe), winny, dbol , drol, halo...all bad if you are MPB prone.
you're gonna lose it eventually - exactly how long is up to you, to an extent. dutasteride is GOOD stuff for test cycles. i wont run one without it...wish it was cheaper. $1/pill is the best i can do.
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11-18-2005, 01:05 AM #14Anabolic Member
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Originally Posted by thebrakes
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11-18-2005, 06:23 PM #15Associate Member
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Originally Posted by vitor
2) tell that to every guy who lost alot of hair on winny
like i said, primo users have reported hairloss, but it's not consistent enough for me to assert it.
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11-18-2005, 06:53 PM #16Originally Posted by Big M
Very debatable question. I've tried Finisteride but never avodart.
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11-19-2005, 01:02 PM #17Originally Posted by thebrakes
i have a lot of clients,some hair loss prone
all has gone well.
5 alpha-Reductase Isoenzyme Inhibition
Both dutasteide and finasteride are 4-azasteroid inhibitors of 5 a -reductase , the enzyme responsible for converting testosterone to dihydrotestosterone (DHT) in the prostate. DHT is the primary androgen int the prostate and has a major role in the development and progression of benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH) and other prostate diseases (1,2,3,4) as well as androgenetic alopecia (5,6).
Two isoenzymes of 5 a -reductase exist (type 1 and type 2). Type 2 is the dominant isoenzyme in genital tissues including the prostate, but is also present in the skin and liver. Type "1" 5 a -reductase is also found in the skin, liver and prostate, and is the dominant form in sebaceous glands. (1,2,4).
Finasteride is a competitive inhibitor of 5 a -reductase that selectively inhibits the type 2 isoenzyme, with which it forms a stable enzyme complex.
this selective activity is attributed to a much lower affinity for the type 1 isoenzyme, and thus a slow rate of type 1 isoenzyme inhibition. In contrast,dutasteride is a competitive inhibitor of both forms of the enzyme, with 45-fold greater potency than finasteride against type 1 and type 2 isoenzymes at clinically used doses. this dual inhibition may potentially be beneficial in prostatic diseased that depend on androgens, since both isoenzymes are up-regulated in BPH while only the type 1 isoenzyme is up-regulated in prostate cancer, as noted above (2,1).
Pharmacogenetic analysis of human steroid 5 alpha reductase type II: comparison of finasteride and dutasteride.
Makridakis N, Reichardt JK.
J Mol Endocrinol. 2005 Jun;34(3):617-23.
An update on the use of 5 alpha-reductase inhibitors.
Foley CL, Bott SR, Shergill IS, Kirby RS.
and from the beginning:
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Originally Posted by oswaldosalcedo
use avodart anyway.
from oxa not much muscle.
add deca.Last edited by oswaldosalcedo; 11-19-2005 at 01:08 PM.
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