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    Thumbs up Just finished my best cycle ever!!!

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    any pictures, that cycle is the one I want to eventually run when I am a little older. Also any gyno problems, how about overall strenght like bench and deadlifts and squt...was it ripped muscle too

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    congrats on your best cycle ever

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    so you dont plan on using PCT at all!?!? yikes!!

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    I can get pics pretty soon here as far as strength my max was 405 on bench ... i do reps of dumbell shoulder press with 110s and i do reps with the 85s for curls

    im 5 10 215 by the way

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    wow i think no pct is a sure plan for some future pain

    pyramiding is not so practical anymore as well but anyways research and good luck kuz i dont think ur on the right path

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    are u a doctor ... cuz if u are i do some more research but when 2 doctors and looking after me and advise me i think ill go with them

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    Quote Originally Posted by BEAR101
    I can get pics pretty soon here as far as strength my max was 405 on bench ... i do reps of dumbell shoulder press with 110s and i do reps with the 85s for curls

    im 5 10 215 by the way
    Impressive.You started your first cycle at a weight of 147 pounds and in 3 cycles you've put on 58 pounds to 215.
    What is you Body fat percentage?


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    ahh thats why u fill out your profile..makes things a little easier

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    Well done on the results bro. I hope you keep your gains though. I'm not sure I agree with your doctors, But I suppose I'm not qualified to argue.

    In my opinion, pyramiding test back down won't start your natural test production as fast as PCT.

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    My bf % i would say is 8-10 mabie i wanna say 8 but i dont wanan hassel when i post pics oh ya and ive been training for 2 years

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    id really like to see some pics! but congrats on your cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BEAR101
    I can get pics pretty soon here as far as strength my max was 405 on bench ... i do reps of dumbell shoulder press with 110s and i do reps with the 85s for curls

    im 5 10 215 by the way
    85s? culring? for reps? and you do this with good form?
    anyway, if you found that no PCT works for you then thats awesome. wish it did for me, then i could save some money
    i do, however, find it very hard to believe you lost zero pounds. no anti e's? no PCT? 800mg of test? dbol !!? and you haven't lost any water weight... and you tapered your doses? that's crazy man.. glad it worked out for you though. good luck in the future

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    Quote Originally Posted by BEAR101
    My bf % i would say is 8-10 mabie i wanna say 8 but i dont wanan hassel when i post pics oh ya and ive been training for 2 years
    WOW...so at your rate you'll be as big as Jay Cutler in 2 more years.58 more pounds and Olympia here you come.
    What is your name?I'd like to know so I can say I've met you on AR when you hit pro in one more year or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BEAR101
    are u a doctor ... cuz if u are i do some more research but when 2 doctors and looking after me and advise me i think ill go with them
    because all doctors know what they're talking about

    try doing a little search on the effects that steroids have on the HPTA

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    i dont believe anything you are saying...show some pictures....you have been liftn for 2 years?...you probably shouldnt be useing AAS then...and you started at 147?...that was your natural peak?....and you did 800mg of test a week..with no anti e....and u didnt lose any water weight?...cool

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle
    WOW...so at your rate you'll be as big as Jay Cutler in 2 more years.58 more pounds and Olympia here you come.
    What is your name?I'd like to know so I can say I've met you on AR when you hit pro in one more year or so.

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    LMAO...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BEAR101
    are u a doctor ... cuz if u are i do some more research but when 2 doctors and looking after me and advise me i think ill go with them
    these two doctors...they lift weights and take steroids ?

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    i said im only 2 weeks out and i havnt lost ne weight time will tell and my when i signed up i was 165 not 147 i didnt post this hoping ud belive i was just proud of what i did plain and simple.... ill get some pics but what will that proove other than my size right now i dont have ne pre cycle so ... and im not saying pct is useless but no pct is working for me i guess my blood tests in 2 weeks will really tell me if it worked or im f**ked for the rest of my life

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    Quote Originally Posted by BEAR101
    i said im only 2 weeks out and i havnt lost ne weight time will tell and my when i signed up i was 165 not 147 i didnt post this hoping ud belive i was just proud of what i did plain and simple.... ill get some pics but what will that proove other than my size right now i dont have ne pre cycle so ... and im not saying pct is useless but no pct is working for me i guess my blood tests in 2 weeks will really tell me if it worked or im f**ked for the rest of my life
    but you said its been 2 weeks since your last injection...since you're using test400, of course you're not going to lose anything now bro...why the hell would you?......now is the time you START PCT for a long estered test.

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    and i probly shouldnt be using ass a lot of people shouldnt but we all take that chance and im not gonna be like jay in 2 years ive been bulking for 2 years straght i start competing in 6 months so if neone bulks for 2 years and does 3 cyles they will gain a lot of weight too

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    that y i said its only been 2 weeks and time will tell

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    Quote Originally Posted by BEAR101
    i said im only 2 weeks out and i havnt lost ne weight time will tell and my when i signed up i was 165 not 147 i didnt post this hoping ud belive i was just proud of what i did plain and simple.... ill get some pics but what will that proove other than my size right now i dont have ne pre cycle so ... and im not saying pct is useless but no pct is working for me i guess my blood tests in 2 weeks will really tell me if it worked or im f**ked for the rest of my life
    You are 215 now.Here's what YOU said your gains were from all your cycles.
    "I gained 30 pounds i am 2 weeks since my last injection and i have lost 0 pounds.. i used no pct i just pyramided off the test .. i went to a doctor and a endocrinologist and thats what they said to do..

    My first cycle was test at 500mgs a week for 10 wks i gained 18 kept 18
    My second cycle was test for 12wks and tren for 6 i gain 18 kept 10"

    That is 58 pounds.....215(current weight)-58=147


    Is my math wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle
    You are 215 now.Here's what YOU said your gains were from all your cycles.
    "I gained 30 pounds i am 2 weeks since my last injection and i have lost 0 pounds.. i used no pct i just pyramided off the test .. i went to a doctor and a endocrinologist and thats what they said to do..

    My first cycle was test at 500mgs a week for 10 wks i gained 18 kept 18
    My second cycle was test for 12wks and tren for 6 i gain 18 kept 10"

    That is 58 pounds.....215(current weight)-58=147


    Is my math wrong?


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    yeah, its 157

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfyEVH
    yeah, its 157
    HAHA...I SHOULD put on my glasses..LMAO

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    Just start PCT now or your going to regret it later.

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    just out of curiosity.....how did you taper the doses?

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    Not a very good pick i ur wondering i just got back from football lost some weight there and went down 6% bf for all u people out there trying to do the math
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    There is a reason everyone does pct. Its not just for fun. Why would you even consider not doing it? Its not expensive? Why take the risk?

    I guess all of us do not get it.

    Dr's are not always right. I broke my arm my freshman year of high school and the dr said i did not need surgery on it. Then afte ra month and going to another dr he flipped out when he found out i didnt get surgery on it.

    Anyways now im left with one arm shorter then the other and lost 30% rotation on it. And thats my jack off hand.

    So the point is DR'S are human too... they dont know everything ... Just take the damn pct and save yourself some trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfyEVH
    yeah, its 157
    haha..earlier i was confused i was about to correct you but figured i wouldnt

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    Quote Originally Posted by BEAR101
    Not a very good pick i ur wondering i just got back from football lost some weight there and went down 6% bf for all u people out there trying to do the math
    You aren't even close to 6% in that picture.Look like you have a nice gut on ya too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle
    You aren't even close to 6% in that picture.Look like you have a nice gut on ya too.
    i agree...at 6 he'd be shredded

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    your bf>10% is say in the 12-13%.

    But id still like to see before pics.

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    wow u people are finicky when i got back from ball i was around 185 and 6% lots of running means loss of weight bulking means gain of weight increase in bf %

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle
    You aren't even close to 6% in that picture.Look like you have a nice gut on ya too.

    if that's 6% bodyfat then i wld like to officially inform everyone i am at -4% bodyfat... thank you... thank you... i know everyone thought it was impossible, but i did it....

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    Good for you bear, no need for PCT. Keep it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topvega
    if that's 6% bodyfat then i wld like to officially inform everyone i am at -4% bodyfat... thank you... thank you... i know everyone thought it was impossible, but i did it....


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    and he took the pic down

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    Why have you edited the post? And took your pic off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BEAR101
    HI hi hi hi

    huh???? what's with all the editing????? bro we are just mesing with u... for what it's worth u looked pretty good in the pic u edited out... it's just that even if u had done pct the claims of your gains and bf% wld have been a little unbelievable... with no pct, and 2 docs saying u are fine or whatever... the bs alarm starts to go off... nothing personal, and no flame intended...

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