Non conventional cycle, Whatcha think?

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11-13-2005, 07:41 PM
sandan

Non conventional cycle, Whatcha think?

OK, I've been doing alot of reading and I am trying to figure out what would be best for a first cycle. Stats: 5ft 9in 163lb bout 9%bf 31yrs old. I am just looking to gain 10-15 lbs lean quality mass,I am a kickboxer so I dont want to get to big. Ive been training about 6 years and my diet is in order. So I have been reading up on all the different compounds and I am kinda shying away from test. Especially because I have just started loosing my hair and I dont want to make it any worse, also I want to avoid the bloat and acne to wich I am very prone.

So I have a cycle in mind and I want to bounce it off you guys:

Wk 1-12 400mgs EQ (shot once per week)
WK 1-12 2 tabs Proviron per day (for balance with the EQ)
Wk 1-12 30mg Oral Turanabol per day
PCT:WK 14-16 nolva 30mgs per day.

So if I'm way off base with this let me know. Thanks in advance for all your help bros!!!
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11-13-2005, 07:46 PM
Danbrooks2k

add test, actually test is all you need for cycle 1
11-13-2005, 07:54 PM
sandan

Uh yeah, but I'm worried about the sides. Wich is the piont of this post. :scratch:
11-13-2005, 07:57 PM
longhorn814

sides of test are exaggerated IMO unless you start getting into high doses. 12 weeks of any oral (OT in your case) is not a good idea either.
11-13-2005, 08:07 PM
wolfyEVH

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Originally Posted by sandan

Uh yeah, but I'm worried about the sides. Wich is the piont of this post. :scratch:

and what are these "sides" you speak of!?!
11-13-2005, 08:11 PM
devil1

yes, i would re-think the cycle and base it off test. if not test only.IMO
11-13-2005, 08:25 PM
sandan

Well as far as sides go I'm talking about hairloss and acne both of wich I am very prone to. I'm 31 and I just started losing my hair, I dont want to speed up the process! :wg:
11-13-2005, 08:25 PM
Smiley619

if you dont want to run it then dont.but an eq cycle is going to yeild minimal gains.and like they said 12 weeks straight of a oral is not wise.
11-13-2005, 09:27 PM
taiboxa

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandan

OK, I've been doing alot of reading and I am trying to figure out what would be best for a first cycle. Stats: 5ft 9in 163lb bout 9%bf 31yrs old. I am just looking to gain 10-15 lbs lean quality mass,I am a kickboxer so I dont want to get to big. Ive been training about 6 years and my diet is in order. So I have been reading up on all the different compounds and I am kinda shying away from test. Especially because I have just started loosing my hair and I dont want to make it any worse, also I want to avoid the bloat and acne to wich I am very prone.

So I have a cycle in mind and I want to bounce it off you guys:

Wk 1-12 400mgs EQ (shot once per week)
WK 1-12 2 tabs Proviron per day (for balance with the EQ)
Wk 1-12 30mg Oral Turanabol per day
PCT:WK 14-16 nolva 30mgs per day.

So if I'm way off base with this let me know. Thanks in advance for all your help bros!!!
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Let me just start by saying, in a polite manner, your a lil below your genetic peak for a cycle IMO- regardless of age- and yes at that stature ur gains will be deceant. but they would be deceant on practically any cycle; but w/o a solid base to retain those gains ur overall success will suffer.

so if u must: go w/ a test backbone and add EQ if u so desire (though i dislike it)
pct kinda lame ... i have not only seen research but tried both a nolva only pct and a conventional nolva/clom pct and U NEED CLOM i assure you
if ur so scared of bloat w/ test RUN a short ester and use an AI, diet and cardio also help w/ water retention

anyways good luck
11-13-2005, 10:35 PM
Igifuno

even if you just run 200mg/wk of test, it would likely do you well for some size/strength and you shouldn't get any serious sides. Everyone is different though, and if you're proned to hairloss perhaps you should get some rogaine or something.
11-13-2005, 10:45 PM
fitnessguy

if you do run the eq i would suggest 600mg EW (300mg 2x a week) for 14 weeks and not so long on the OT. i wasn't that impressed with eq at 400mg...
however i think the sides from test are a little over rated and apply more to overly high doses in most cases. i think you'd be much happier if you replaced the eq with test. JMO
11-14-2005, 01:48 AM
sandan

I really appreciate all of your help guys!! :aaGreen22
11-14-2005, 10:28 AM
D7M

go with prop, 75 eod, IMHO.

I love when people say, "I don't want to get too big" as if they are going to look like Arny after 12 weeks of EQ!! LOL.
11-14-2005, 11:28 AM
BajanBastard

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandan

OK, I've been doing alot of reading and I am trying to figure out what would be best for a first cycle. Stats: 5ft 9in 163lb bout 9%bf 31yrs old. I am just looking to gain 10-15 lbs lean quality mass,I am a kickboxer so I dont want to get to big. Ive been training about 6 years and my diet is in order. So I have been reading up on all the different compounds and I am kinda shying away from test. Especially because I have just started loosing my hair and I dont want to make it any worse, also I want to avoid the bloat and acne to wich I am very prone.

So I have a cycle in mind and I want to bounce it off you guys:

Wk 1-12 400mgs EQ (shot once per week)
WK 1-12 2 tabs Proviron per day (for balance with the EQ)
Wk 1-12 30mg Oral Turanabol per day
PCT:WK 14-16 nolva 30mgs per day.

So if I'm way off base with this let me know. Thanks in advance for all your help bros!!!
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Actually it's not a very poorly planned cycle. The proviron should keep your sex drive up from the boldenone/EQ suppression of your natural testosterone. 30mg of a mild oral like O-T for 12 weeks won't kill you either. The EQ can convert to small amounts of DHB (1-test) which may cause some degree of hair loss/acne in prove individuals.

I would recommend 400-500 mg testosterone enanthate or cypionate for 12 wks along side letrozole or anastrozole and a DHT blocker if needed.
11-14-2005, 11:38 AM
Mesomorphyl

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandan

So I have a cycle in mind and I want to bounce it off you guys:

Wk 1-12 400mgs EQ (shot once per week)
WK 1-12 2 tabs Proviron per day (for balance with the EQ)
Wk 1-12 30mg Oral Turanabol per day
PCT:WK 14-16 nolva 30mgs per day.

So if I'm way off base with this let me know. Thanks in advance for all your help bros!!!

I just hit the sauce last night; back on! Listen I am doing only a replacement dose of test. I am doing eq and deca along side it at higher doses. I will say this is not conventional but I will see about the sexual sides(the only thing I think may be effected). I would limit intake of orals like var or tbol to 8ish weeks. Also hit some clomid as well with pct.