11-13-2005, 06:41 PM #1
Non conventional cycle, Whatcha think?
OK, I've been doing alot of reading and I am trying to figure out what would be best for a first cycle. Stats: 5ft 9in 163lb bout 9%bf 31yrs old. I am just looking to gain 10-15 lbs lean quality mass,I am a kickboxer so I dont want to get to big. Ive been training about 6 years and my diet is in order. So I have been reading up on all the different compounds and I am kinda shying away from test. Especially because I have just started loosing my hair and I dont want to make it any worse, also I want to avoid the bloat and acne to wich I am very prone.
So I have a cycle in mind and I want to bounce it off you guys:
Wk 1-12 400mgs EQ (shot once per week)
WK 1-12 2 tabs Proviron per day (for balance with the EQ)
Wk 1-12 30mg Oral Turanabol per day
PCT:WK 14-16 nolva 30mgs per day.
So if I'm way off base with this let me know. Thanks in advance for all your help bros!!!
11-13-2005, 06:46 PM #2
add test, actually test is all you need for cycle 1
11-13-2005, 06:54 PM #3
Uh yeah, but I'm worried about the sides. Wich is the piont of this post.
11-13-2005, 06:57 PM #4
sides of test are exaggerated IMO unless you start getting into high doses. 12 weeks of any oral (OT in your case) is not a good idea either.
11-13-2005, 07:07 PM #5Originally Posted by sandan
11-13-2005, 07:11 PM #6
yes, i would re-think the cycle and base it off test. if not test only.IMO
11-13-2005, 07:25 PM #7
Well as far as sides go I'm talking about hairloss and acne both of wich I am very prone to. I'm 31 and I just started losing my hair, I dont want to speed up the process!
11-13-2005, 07:25 PM #8
if you dont want to run it then dont.but an eq cycle is going to yeild minimal gains.and like they said 12 weeks straight of a oral is not wise.
11-13-2005, 08:27 PM #9Originally Posted by sandan
so if u must: go w/ a test backbone and add EQ if u so desire (though i dislike it)
pct kinda lame ... i have not only seen research but tried both a nolva only pct and a conventional nolva/clom pct and U NEED CLOM i assure you
if ur so scared of bloat w/ test RUN a short ester and use an AI, diet and cardio also help w/ water retention
anyways good luck
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11-13-2005, 09:35 PM #10
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even if you just run 200mg/wk of test, it would likely do you well for some size/strength and you shouldn't get any serious sides. Everyone is different though, and if you're proned to hairloss perhaps you should get some rogaine or something.
11-13-2005, 09:45 PM #11
if you do run the eq i would suggest 600mg EW (300mg 2x a week) for 14 weeks and not so long on the OT. i wasn't that impressed with eq at 400mg...
however i think the sides from test are a little over rated and apply more to overly high doses in most cases. i think you'd be much happier if you replaced the eq with test. JMO
11-14-2005, 12:48 AM #12
I really appreciate all of your help guys!!
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11-14-2005, 09:28 AM #13
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go with prop, 75 eod, IMHO.
I love when people say, "I don't want to get too big" as if they are going to look like Arny after 12 weeks of EQ!! LOL.
11-14-2005, 10:28 AM #14VET Retired
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I would recommend 400-500 mg testosterone enanthate or cypionate for 12 wks along side letrozole or anastrozole and a DHT blocker if needed.
11-14-2005, 10:38 AM #15Originally Posted by sandan
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