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    having blurry vision..

    Im on PCT (nolva+clomid) and Im having to squint my eyes alot.. should this worry me, Ive read about nolva possibly affecting the eyes even permamently.. and clomid we all know about..

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    From what I understand, the damage from nolva is more likely to be permanent, whereas the visual distortion created by clomid goes away after use-so IMO you might dump the nolva, or lower the dose of it anyhow.

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    thx .. gonna drop the nolva to a half a 20 mg pill and keep the clomid at 50 .. I stuill have a week of PCT left..

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    Its funny how people read a watch out thread and all of the sudden everyone & their brother has the same vision problems. Nothing directed strait at you stupid hippo, just saying.

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    I know! I am thinking of that possibility too. Like after reading the possible heart related sides to clen I notice myself trying to psyche myself thinking that sumin is wrong.. =) So Im not too worried but if it gets too obvious then I will worry bout it.

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    Who says the placebo effect doesn't work? lol

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    I think the funniest was when they compared all the normal anti-deprassants to a placebo. The best AD scored 60 % as the placebo did 50% =) LOL ...

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    How long into PCT are you???

    "Side effects of Clomid are very rare if reasonable dosages are taken. Possible side effects are climacteric hot flashes and occasional visual disturbances, which can manifest themselves in blurred vision, giving flickering or flashing. Should visual disturbances occur, the manufacturer recommends discontinuing Clomid treatment."

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    ahahaa, you might have a bad case of placebo-vision, but on the other hand it could be really serious permanent damage.... PSYCH!

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    Everytime I take Clomid, I definitely have vision issues. I normally see colored trails....Since it always seems to happen towards the end of my PCT, I just quit taking it.

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    Im near to the end also so I might do that too .. But then again my nuts arent what they were b4 cycle (even though they have grown back a lot´).. Ill prolly just finish this PCT unless the issue gets to be more clear , or blurry in this case..

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    the testicles will go back to their original size eventually. good luck!!

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    I have to throw this possibility in just because it is real with me;

    Have you been consuming a lot of sugar carbs? Your vision problem could be related to an uncontrolled glucose level in your blood. I am a type 2 diebetic and sugar can effect my vision from one day to the next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mesomorphyl
    Its funny how people read a watch out thread and all of the sudden everyone & their brother has the same vision problems. Nothing directed strait at you stupid hippo, just saying.
    Blurry Vision is also characteristic of cholesterol over 220 and/or triglicerides levels over 250. Its quite typical of guys going into PCT after a steroid cycle to have this high cholesterol and/or triglicerides. Its more likely the vision is from the other effects of steroids and NOT nolvadex . Nolva has been used by women for breast cancer since 1970 and earlier and the known cases of eye damage is rather low. Add to this, breast cancer patients stay on nolvadex for several years, your body builder needing an anti-e only uses it a handful of months at most at a time. There are also other issues, men have testosterone in their body while women on nolvadex typically are post menopausal and have very low sex hormones in their body to begin with.

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    google side effects and clomid and you'll find that blured vision effects some people. It does me so I don't do any PCT.

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    what are ur gains kept like? Do u lose most or only some?

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    perhaps maybe cut down on the manual relief, ie. Jacking Off!!! LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jray1der
    perhaps maybe cut down on the manual relief, ie. Jacking Off!!! LOL!
    Grandma said it would make me go blind

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    and now it seems she was right..

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