Sustanon 250 - Is 1 Amp Enough!?

**Canadian Juicer** · 11-14-2005, 02:49 PM

I was just wondering if 1 amp (1ml - 250mg) of sustanon is enough per week to do a cycle.... I've been reading alot on it and some people say it is crap other can't praise it enough... Some say they use 1 amp EOD or even ED... other do two hits a week... I was wondering if those who know and hopefully have done it themselves could respond to these questions... I have a cycle in mind and I either have enough sust for a single sust cycle and a sust/deca (300mg/week) cycle... or if need i can do just a sust/deca using all my gear... (also note I will be using Danabol DS to kick start it/front load)... thanks... If any more info is needed that I have forgotten to add just let me know... oh and yeah first cycle

**bigbouncinballs** · 11-14-2005, 02:52 PM

no, one a week is just about worthless. do it every other day. i'm hittin it one a day but it isn't my first.

**PrairieDawg** · 11-14-2005, 02:55 PM

should throw some dbol in at the start of that cycle if you're going to run sust only.

**JiGGaMaN** · 11-14-2005, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by PrairieDawg

should throw some dbol in at the start of that cycle if you're going to run sust only.

he said he was already. i wouldnt use sustanon at all but thats my opinion. if you are going to use it aim for 2 amps a week for 12 weeks if you cant get anything else.

**Canadian Juicer** · 11-14-2005, 02:59 PM

Yeah gonna front load with dbol ... what about doing it twice a week?... like monday and thursday... or doing two amps a week but EOD...although it will be a first cycle too

**JiGGaMaN** · 11-14-2005, 03:01 PM

do you have any access to something else like test enanthate or cypionate ??

**Canadian Juicer** · 11-14-2005, 03:03 PM

Well I got the gear in a country that was legal to acquire OTC and there was some test cyp there but the way it was packaged kinda made me iffy.... but at the moment I am not longer there so umm... not really unless I scout around and gonnna pay a whole crap load more for it... i got like 3 packs of sust for like les than or around $10 CAD...

Edit: Also don't know if this makes a difference but both the sust and deca are Paki Organon

**mkrulic** · 11-14-2005, 03:09 PM

the problem with shooting sust once a week is that there are esters with short half lifes that stop contributing before the week is out. if you're set on 250mg/week you should shoot something more stable like enanthate . here is the half-life breakdown:

Propionate 2 days
Phenylpropionate 4.5 days
Isocaproate 9 days
Decanoate 15 days

how to calculate the mg on a certain day:
mg*2^(-day/half life)
compare a fifth day with this to a fifth day w/ enanthate. If you're going to shoot twice a week its not that bad a coumpound. check out this thread
sust 250 does not have to be shot eod

**ultimate_beef** · 11-14-2005, 03:12 PM

10 bucks for it is pretty good. I'm paying 16 bucks per amp for omnadren which is pretty close to sust. Foryour cycle. You had a good idea with adding the deca in it. With imo 2 amps/ week with sust, Should make wicked results.

**Canadian Juicer** · 11-14-2005, 03:13 PM

If I did two amps a week (500mg) and 300mg of deca

wk 1-10 deca 300mg
wk 1-12 sust 250mg x 2
w 1-4 dbol 20-30mg ed

and yes of course PCT etc,....

Would that be worth doing ... also what kinda of gains could I expect... and would it be worth breaking the 2 amps down even further into like half amps or .5ml to make the injections more often hence more stable blood levels?

BG · 11-14-2005, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by Canadian Juicer

Yeah gonna front load with dbol... what about doing it twice a week?... like monday and thursday... or doing two amps a week but EOD...although it will be a first cycle too

kickstart not frontload two different things.

**Canadian Juicer** · 11-14-2005, 03:24 PM

My bad wrong term... but neways so would it be worth using half an amp to shoot it more often?.... what kinda gains could one expect and what amount would be kept after... 5'8".. 175lbs..10%bf... my buddy also doing the same 6'0".. 250lbs... a lot higher bf lol... me thinks like 15-20%....

**PrairieDawg** · 11-14-2005, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by JiGGaMaN

he said he was already. i wouldnt use sustanon at all but thats my opinion. if you are going to use it aim for 2 amps a week for 12 weeks if you cant get anything else.

oops sorry didnt even see that

**Canadian Juicer** · 11-14-2005, 04:05 PM

Any other opinions?

**zomzom** · 11-14-2005, 04:07 PM

It should not be so bad to use sustanon for a irst cycle.
Most of TEST Enanthate amps need two injections a week...

**Canadian Juicer** · 11-14-2005, 04:31 PM

You guys think it would be better though to take the two amps and do EOD injections instead of 2 x 1amp inject/week?

**JiGGaMaN** · 11-14-2005, 04:42 PM

more stable blood levels and less likelyhood of side effects like that, i would.

**Canadian Juicer** · 11-14-2005, 04:43 PM

Hey Jigga u said u are/or have done sust... have many amps to you use for a cycle... most be a hellova lot...

**powerlifter** · 11-14-2005, 04:46 PM

Sust is suboptimal IMO - blood levels are impossible to keep steady due to differing half lives of different esters. steady levels = steady gains and less sides but you can still get big on it

**zomzom** · 11-14-2005, 07:00 PM

Blood levels? what is that?

**texasaggie05** · 11-21-2005, 03:36 PM

im using trenbolone acetate at 1cc EOD and sust 250 at every monday and thursday. I have 20cc of tren a by Hellfire labs, and 10cc of sust 250 by QV....good mix or what? i just started it last week