Is this too much for a First Cycle?????????

**Biglou54** · 11-12-2005, 03:04 PM

I was thinkin of doing TestE/Primo/Winny Cycle for my first cycle. i already have the Primo and Winny, and was advised i should start with a Test E.
And i Figure the Winny and Primo Will help Solidife the Gains i make with the Test E.
The Cycle would go as Follows:
Test E 500Mg Weeks 1-9
Primo 200Mg Weeks 5-9
Winny 150Mg Weeks 7-9
Novadex 10-20mg Weeks 1-9 Plus PCT
Pct:
HCG , Clomid And Novadex
Any input Would be Much Appreciated.

**Biglou54** · 11-12-2005, 03:06 PM

Oh yeah Is the HCG a must with theese Dosages

**Reprisal 6** · 11-12-2005, 04:31 PM

It's not overkill by any means but you won't need that many compounds.
Try just 1 compound. Test E

And why only 9 weeks?

**Biglou54** · 11-12-2005, 04:51 PM

It Seemed to make More Sense with the Primo And Winny, But the Duration is Not at all set in Stone.

***Narkissos*** · 11-14-2005, 11:52 PM

Moved...

**thejuiceisloose** · 11-15-2005, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by Biglou54

I was thinkin of doing TestE/Primo/Winny Cycle for my first cycle. i already have the Primo and Winny, and was advised i should start with a Test E.
And i Figure the Winny and Primo Will help Solidife the Gains i make with the Test E.
The Cycle would go as Follows:
Test E 500Mg Weeks 1-9
Primo 200Mg Weeks 5-9
Winny 150Mg Weeks 7-9
Novadex 10-20mg Weeks 1-9 Plus PCT
Pct:
HCG , Clomid And Novadex
Any input Would be Much Appreciated.

IMHO I would go with for your first cycle:
Test E 500mg/wk weeks 1-12
nolva 20mg/ED followed by proper PCT

**RAM2500** · 11-15-2005, 07:45 AM

winny dosage is a bit low.

**powerliftmike** · 11-15-2005, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by RAM2500

winny dosage is a bit low.

Indeed. The standard is 50mg/dy so 350mg/wk.

**longhorn814** · 11-15-2005, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by RAM2500

winny dosage is a bit low.

doseage and duration of primo is way too low as well. At least 500mg for minimum of 8 weeks, thats bare minimum for primo IMO

**shortie** · 11-15-2005, 09:46 AM

If that is your first cycle, I don't even want to see your shopping list for your 5th. Tbol/Dbol /Test Prop/Tren /Winny/Drol/and some Eq just to round it off. Go with a single compound first cycle like the one listed above by The Juice-first time out you don't need a ton of gear to get gains.

**Biglou54** · 11-15-2005, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by thejuiceisloose

IMHO I would go with for your first cycle:
Test E 500mg/wk weeks 1-12
nolva 20mg/ED followed by proper PCT

Question if i already have early signes of male pattern baldness(MPB) will test e aggrevate the hell out of it, the reason i chose the Primo was becouse i thought it really wont effect things like MPB.

**powerliftmike** · 11-15-2005, 01:23 PM

Originally Posted by Biglou54

Question if i already have early signes of male pattern baldness(MPB) will test e aggrevate the hell out of it, the reason i chose the Primo was becouse i thought it really wont effect things like MPB.

You probably are better off with test and an anti-DHT compound available thru ARR. Primo has been known to cause hairloss since it is DHT derived, even tho as you correctly presumed it is low in androgens.

**Swifto** · 11-15-2005, 01:26 PM

More copounds does not mean better gains. Stick with Test Enan or Cyp run between 350-500mg/wk for 12 or 14 weeks. You could add an oral, such as, Dbol 30mg/ED for the first 4 weeks or Tbol 50mg/ED for the first 6 weeks. Or just run Test Enan or Cyp and add an oral for a 2nd or 3rd cycle.

**NYGIANTS21** · 11-15-2005, 01:46 PM

Just go with test e as everyone else said. 500mg/wk. you will have time to add more compounds. you don't have to jump into it thinking that you must take everything out there. slow is good. Test E and eat clean and you will be happy. Trust us bro.