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    Opinions with cycle?

    Any changes?:

    Cyp 450mg/wk 1-13
    EQ 450mg/wk 1-13
    Winny 50mg/ed 7-11
    IGF-1 80mcg/ed 1-8 (or post cycle; haven't decided yet - opionions welcome)

    I also have about two weeks of var (at 60mg/ed) left over from my last cycle. should I take it at the beginning of this cycle for the sake of getting rid of it? I don't know if two weeks worth would have any advantages or not.

    .5mg/ed arimidex all the way through and PCT, etc.

    Stats 28yo, 180lbs, 10%bf 4th cycle, 1st time IGF user.

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    IGF should be ran 4 weeks on 4 weeks off...not 8 weeks straight bro....

    not to mention thats a high dose for a first time igf user.

    why not increase that test to about 600 a week and run the test till week 14?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfyEVH
    IGF should be ran 4 weeks on 4 weeks off...not 8 weeks straight bro....

    not to mention thats a high dose for a first time igf user.

    why not increase that test to about 600 a week and run the test till week 14?
    why not up the eq to 600 as well so he will see results from it

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    I'm working with what I have for now, which is enough for 450mg/wk for 13 weeks. The IGF was expensive so I'm a little short on cash at the moment. I could go 600mg/wk and do 10 weeks, but with the IGF I wanted to run the other compounds longer.

    I thought I did a good amount of research on IGF, but perhaps not. I thought I read that its okay to run IGF for 8 weeks and the 4 on 4 for off was strictly finincally motivated.

    For a 1st time IGF, you suggest lowering the doses to....60mcg/ed or even lower?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Igifuno
    I'm working with what I have for now, which is enough for 450mg/wk for 13 weeks. The IGF was expensive so I'm a little short on cash at the moment. I could go 600mg/wk and do 10 weeks, but with the IGF I wanted to run the other compounds longer.

    I thought I did a good amount of research on IGF, but perhaps not. I thought I read that its okay to run IGF for 8 weeks and the 4 on 4 for off was strictly finincally motivated.

    For a 1st time IGF, you suggest lowering the doses to....60mcg/ed or even lower?
    60 is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wolfyEVH
    60 is good.
    thanks wolfy, how about the 4wk on 4 off... is this one of those subjects you'll hear mixed opinions on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Igifuno
    thanks wolfy, how about the 4wk on 4 off... is this one of those subjects you'll hear mixed opinions on?
    I think you will get mixed thoughts on it.
    it has always been my understanding that it should be used 4 on 4 off.
    that is what I have done and it has worked well for me. but I was also useing slin on the 4 off weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by dive_kid
    I think you will get mixed thoughts on it.
    it has always been my understanding that it should be used 4 on 4 off.
    that is what I have done and it has worked well for me. but I was also useing slin on the 4 off weeks
    interesting... I'm not using slin. i haven't crossed that threshold...yet. I suppose i'll have to research more.

    how about the var... do you think it would be worth it to take for two weeks at 60mg/ed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Igifuno
    interesting... I'm not using slin. i haven't crossed that threshold...yet. I suppose i'll have to research more.

    how about the var... do you think it would be worth it to take for two weeks at 60mg/ed?
    I would save the var for a future cycle. 2 weeks is not much.
    and do do your research on slin. it can get kinda scary if ya dont know what your doing.

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    right on.. thanks again dude.

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