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    Staying on all the time

    I wanna know more about staying on all the time but but taking low doses, pros and cons. Lay it on me. I was told that the pro's do this, any truth?Also I know that staying on test for real long periods of time can make your body not produce test ever again. Just lookin for some info.

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    I wouldn't do it at your age, if you were older and had to take HRT, that would be different. Who cares what the pros do, none of us are pros, they are monitored by Drs as far as I know.

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    Are you contemplating doing this?Or are you just looking for info from ppl that stay on year round?

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    just want info, know ppl who do it. so it's pretty stupid. Just wanted to make sure, not even thinking about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TommyBoy1980
    just want info, know ppl who do it. so it's pretty stupid. Just wanted to make sure, not even thinking about it.
    No need to do that if your HPTA is healthy and can be brought back to full function with PCT. You should be able to get the same anabolic effects from your natty test compared to a low dosage of maintainence exongenous test. Clomid, nolva, tongkat, trib. Do clomid until your sex drive comes back to full swing with morning wood.

    I'm a little over 6 weeks in PCT and I have gained most of my strength back that I had when on. I'm maybe 5% less stronger? I tire out quicker during sets (muscle soreness) and I don't get the same pump, but that is expected. Boy, r3-IGF1 is missed. I just have to put more rest in between body parts now. Other than that I still look full. I don't look like somebody put in a pin in me and deflated the balloon. I've been more strict than ever with PCT this time. I'm still taking tongkat at 2000mgs ed with trib. Balls are full. They shrank quite a bit during my last 5 month cycle. I also did HCG the last 3 weeks on cycle at 500ius ed.
    Last edited by Seattle Junk; 11-16-2005 at 03:10 PM.

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    yeah staying on forever would be kinda scary, imagine having to stick yourself when your in your 60's

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    if u ever be 60 :d if i knew i would survive it i would juice all year long

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    by the ****ing way when am i going to be able to send pms

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    Quote Originally Posted by karln
    if u ever be 60 :d if i knew i would survive it i would juice all year long
    Show me the "bodies" to back the claims you've made about anabolics bro.You've been claiming they will kill you.There are retired competitors at my gym who've been on for 30 yrs!!No health issues what so ever.
    I'm a lifer myself.So post up some proof that in healthy adult males anabolics will kill you.I dare ya..I double fvking dare ya.....I'll be waiting patiently!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle
    Show me the "bodies" to back the claims you've made about anabolics bro.You've been claiming they will kill you.There are retired competitors at my gym who've been on for 30 yrs!!No health issues what so ever.
    I'm a lifer myself.So post up some proof that in healthy adult males anabolics will kill you.I dare ya..I double fvking dare ya.....I'll be waiting patiently!

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    Still waiting LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by j martini
    Still waiting LOL
    And waiting................

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    im kinda curiouse to what kinda gains would one expect staying on year round say starting with 400-500 mg of test enth or cyp a week and going year round...........

    i dont know much about cycles lasting 20+ weeks the only cycles iv ever heard of were no more than this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle
    Show me the "bodies" to back the claims you've made about anabolics bro.You've been claiming they will kill you.There are retired competitors at my gym who've been on for 30 yrs!!No health issues what so ever.
    I'm a lifer myself.So post up some proof that in healthy adult males anabolics will kill you.I dare ya..I double fvking dare ya.....I'll be waiting patiently!

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    well i got some seroius cholesterol/bp going on here from aas usage..

    my normal blood pressure is 150/90 LOL im on meds right now hoping it will go down but .. he might have a point i might have a stroke if people keep posting shit like "AAS will kill you" kuz my bp is going to go even higher

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    Quote Originally Posted by nitroexpress
    im kinda curiouse to what kinda gains would one expect staying on year round say starting with 400-500 mg of test enth or cyp a week and going year round...........

    i dont know much about cycles lasting 20+ weeks the only cycles iv ever heard of were no more than this.

    Most people on year round would be on more than 400-500mg a week more like a few grams a week for say 20 weeks then drop down to 250 mg for a few months.

    Usually people at an advanced level, who would not grow on 400-500mg.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j martini
    Most people on year round would be on more than 400-500mg a week more like a few grams a week for say 20 weeks then drop down to 250 mg for a few months.

    Usually people at an advanced level, who would not grow on 400-500mg.
    aye takes me atleast 1.5grams to really see something happen nowdays

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    aye takes me atleast 1.5grams to really see something happen nowdays
    Consider yourself lucky.I need well over 2g's.



    How long you been "ON"?I've been on for years,and no cholesterol,BP issues here.

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    for those of you taking 1g or more of test how big are you people..............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle
    Consider yourself lucky.I need well over 2g's.



    How long you been "ON"?I've been on for years,and no cholesterol,BP issues here.

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    lol 8months of every year is usually sufficient i always like a lil break i have shitty genetics..

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    Quote Originally Posted by nitroexpress
    for those of you taking 1g or more of test how big are you people..............
    i have 30+lbs of LBM over my GENETIC Limit it wat it seems i kan get up to about 240 10% or so natty anymore than that and this short mofo cant grow w/o miracle grow

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    Quote Originally Posted by nitroexpress
    for those of you taking 1g or more of test how big are you people..............
    Extremely poor genetics.Cesspool genetics actually!

    230 @ 9% BF...short bastard as well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle
    Extremely poor genetics.Cesspool genetics actually!

    230 @ 9% BF...short bastard as well.


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    alright im glad to see im not the only one w/ shotty genetics..

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    Quote Originally Posted by taiboxa
    alright im glad to see im not the only one w/ shotty genetics..
    That's why we need to do boat loads of gear....It kills me to see guys run cycles of 800 mgs constantly and blow up.Rotten bastards!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle
    That's why we need to do boat loads of gear....It kills me to see guys run cycles of 800 mgs constantly and blow up.Rotten bastards!!


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    yeah my buddy is running (not really i hate him but i associate w/ him every night at the gym) 750mg Sus a week and 300mgDeca he is EXPLODING LOL sick gains that i dont get oh yeah and get this 1iu of GH ED ROFL 1?! i run 6 >< and he is like making HUGE GAINS on me

    AND DONT EVEN SAY DIET I SWEAR if ONE PERSON SAYS DIET IMA BioChem you to death ><

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle
    That's why we need to do boat loads of gear....It kills me to see guys run cycles of 800 mgs constantly and blow up.Rotten bastards!!


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    fully attest to this statement!! bastards!!!

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    my last cycle i ran 600mgs of test cyp for 10wks & gained around 21lbs & lost about 4 threw pct!i have decent genetics except for my calves i train them twice a week like hell & they do not grow but my father & both grandfathers have thin calves so i found my main prob

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    damn man iv been lifting for a baout a year and a half im 205 pounds say 12% bf started at 170-175 and im all natural i cant wait to see what a little sause ill do............but im gonna wait for a few more months...........researching as of now.

    i must add as a side note however that my natural test is throught the friggin roof.

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    I usually maintain at 250mg test a week. I tend to do longer cycles as well, my bulker right now for example is a 20 week cycle. From there I might make an attempt to go off for a couple months before going into my contest cutter, but there's a good chance i'll probably just keep bridging instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nitroexpress
    for those of you taking 1g or more of test how big are you people..............
    5'8" 275 ~10% bf. Good point about the bigger you get the more you need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle
    Extremely poor genetics.Cesspool genetics actually!

    230 @ 9% BF...short bastard as well.


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    You're getting huge brutha. I think last time I remember you were about 220lbs. So that tren cycle packed it on? Good job.

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