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    Planning out first cycle

    I've been giving this a lot of thought in the past two months for a cycle I plan to start in Feb. of next year. It will be my first cycle and this is what I've been planning.

    Weeks 1-12 500mg Test-E
    Weeks 1-6 50mg T-bol ed
    .5mg Arimidex throughout cycle to reduce water retention.

    Followed by clomid/nolva for pct.

    What do you guys think?

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    i don't know what t-bol is. if it's d-bol i'd only run it for 4 weeks at about 30mg. test dose and length is good. i'd throw in at least 200mg deca or primo for whole cycle and i personally would run some winstrol at the end(at least last 4 weeks) to help solidify gains. also i'd use hcg and clomid for pct. should see some pretty good results.

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    ha, this is his first cycle and you recommend 4 different compounds. wow.
    Looks good edman. May want to just run the TestE for 10-12wks and see how you respond.

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    Yea I don't really want to add too many compounds. I thought about adding in winny at the end to harden up a bit, but decided against it for the sake of money and well...it's my first cycle and I feel like I'll be satisfied with just test alone. I only want to add the Oral Turinabol in to get some clean gains early on. By the way this is going to be a very clean bulking cycle. My aim isn't ridiculous (but sloppy) gains but instead maximum muscle gain with the smallest possible fat gains. This of course will depend purely on my diet, but just thought I'd put that out there.

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    why not run the tbol throughtout the cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1morerep
    why not run the tbol throughtout the cycle?
    it's a 17aa. plus when week 6 hits, you wont need more than the test, really.

    i'm in week 4 of a test-based cycle kicked off with tbol (i have deca , NPP, prop and var in mine though). going great - lean gains, wicked pumps, no impact to hairline. tbol is goooood stuff.

    you probably wont want that much arimidex though. anytime i use that much ED my joints start to ache. .25mg ED is plenty for just 500mg test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebrakes
    it's a 17aa. plus when week 6 hits, you wont need more than the test, really.

    i'm in week 4 of a test-based cycle kicked off with tbol (i have deca , NPP, prop and var in mine though). going great - lean gains, wicked pumps, no impact to hairline. tbol is goooood stuff.

    you probably wont want that much arimidex though. anytime i use that much ED my joints start to ache. .25mg ED is plenty for just 500mg test.
    Good to know, I've been looking for others' experiences with a stack like this. Yea I figured that .5mg/day might be a lot, these are all just rough numbers for now.

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    i used 50mg of TBol the first 2 weeks, then 70mg ED since then. weight gains was strong with both.

    tbol isnt known for strength gains, and i've been no different.

    i think tbol is a perfect kickstart - fast action, no: bloat, lethargy, libido loss, MPB concerns, HBP...just clean gains and REAL nice hardness (lots of other users report that too, i forgot)

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    If u want to keep ur doses low and cycle simple
    id do something like this

    1-6tbol
    1-12 500test
    1-12 250 Eq or Deca

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