First Timer. Need advice.

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11-18-2005, 12:05 AM
USMCSS

First Timer. Need advice.

Ok, here's the deal...
I'm obviously new as hell at this and need all the help I can get.

I picked up a bottle of cypionate 300mg and a bottle of enanthate 300mg. I was planning on taking both at the same time. 1cc per week of each. Pros...Cons???
Give me as much advice as possible and thanks ahead of time.

oh, one more thing. I picked the bottles up from a friend I trust but am still skeptical of whether or not the enanthate is legit. It says it is from British Dispensary Labs London, England. Has a lot number, an expiration date, is in a brown bottle with a black label, gold writing on it, and a green metal safety cap. Anybody think this is fake or not? Sorry, my digi-cam is jacked up and I need a new one or I would post a pic.
Thanks again.
11-18-2005, 12:12 AM
Pinnacle

First off..welcome to the board!

Either run the Test E,or CYP..no need to run both.They are very similar in structure except Cyp has one more molecule added to it.Which makes it a little heavier.

400-500 mgs weekly for 10-12 weeks is a perfect first cycle with test.
Now you need to learn what anti estrogens to run to combat bloat(water retention).Plus proper PCT protocol.
Use the search feature above to the right.It will lead you to all your answers.

Happy researching!!

~Pinnacle~
11-18-2005, 12:13 AM
ODC0717

Quote:

Originally Posted by USMCSS

Ok, here's the deal...
I'm obviously new as hell at this and need all the help I can get.

I picked up a bottle of cypionate 300mg and a bottle of enanthate 300mg. I was planning on taking both at the same time. 1cc per week of each. Pros...Cons???
Give me as much advice as possible and thanks ahead of time.

oh, one more thing. I picked the bottles up from a friend I trust but am still skeptical of whether or not the enanthate is legit. It says it is from British Dispensary Labs London, England. Has a lot number, an expiration date, is in a brown bottle with a black label, gold writing on it, and a green metal safety cap. Anybody think this is fake or not? Sorry, my digi-cam is jacked up and I need a new one or I would post a pic.
Thanks again.

I can't comment on the BD gear as I've never used it. As for the cycle, I'd run 2ml, or 600mg ew, split into two shots per week. Monday and Thursday should suffice. If 600mg sounds too stiff you could bring it down to 450mg ew. Take nolva at 10mg ed for estrogen control and bump it to 20mg PCT. If you end your cycle with test enth begin PCT 2 weeks after you last enth shot. If you end with cyp begin PCT 3 weeks after you last cyp shot.
11-18-2005, 12:15 AM
dive_kid

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

First off..welcome to the board!

Either run the Test E,or CYP..no need to run both.They are very similar in structure except Cyp has one more molecule added to it.Which makes it a little heavier.

400-500 mgs weekly for 10-12 weeks is a perfect first cycle with test.
Now you need to learn what anti estrogens to run to combat bloat(water retention).Plus proper PCT protocol.
Use the search feature above to the right.It will lead you to all your answers.

Happy researching!!

~Pinnacle~

I concur
11-18-2005, 12:19 AM
USMCSS

Damn that was some fast replies. I think I'm gonna like it here!

Ya I've been doing a ton of research.

I guess I'll run the cyp at 300mg twice a week and then run the Test E after that.
11-18-2005, 12:21 AM
anabolicvenom

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

First off..welcome to the board!

Either run the Test E,or CYP..no need to run both.They are very similar in structure except Cyp has one more molecule added to it.Which makes it a little heavier.

400-500 mgs weekly for 10-12 weeks is a perfect first cycle with test.
Now you need to learn what anti estrogens to run to combat bloat(water retention).Plus proper PCT protocol.
Use the search feature above to the right.It will lead you to all your answers.

Happy researching!!

~Pinnacle~

Pinnacle is a god, listen to him!!! :7up:
11-18-2005, 12:25 AM
dive_kid

Quote:

Originally Posted by anabolicvenom

Pinnacle is a god, listen to him!!! :7up:

definately knowes his shit :thumbsup:
11-18-2005, 12:31 AM
USMCSS

From what I'm reading, Nolva is something I need to get my hands on, correct? Is that something available over the counter or by other means?
11-18-2005, 12:34 AM
anabolicvenom

yeah nolva would be good. taking it 10mg ed
somebody can give you a site that you can buy it off of.
11-18-2005, 12:34 AM
SwoleDave

click the nolva link... just dont get it shipped to the base...
11-18-2005, 12:35 AM
USMCSS

To a P.O. box or are you refering to military base because I'm a civilian now.
11-18-2005, 12:38 AM
Pinnacle

Quote:

Originally Posted by anabolicvenom

Pinnacle is a god, listen to him!!! :7up:

Thanks,but I'm far from that on this,or any board,for that matter.BUT,at home it is different.My girlfriend must address me in this manner at all times.:wg:

~Pinnacle~
11-18-2005, 12:39 AM
Pinnacle

Quote:

Originally Posted by USMCSS

To a P.O. box or are you refering to military base because I'm a civilian now.

Then get it sent to your house.It's only a research product.You'll need clomid for PCT as well.

~Pinnacle~
11-18-2005, 12:46 AM
USMCSS

Cool. Will do.

Pinnacle, in your opinion, would you go with nolva or letro for a first time cycle? I'm prone to gyno...
11-18-2005, 09:55 AM
Pinnacle

Quote:

Originally Posted by USMCSS

Cool. Will do.

Pinnacle, in your opinion, would you go with nolva or letro for a first time cycle? I'm prone to gyno...

I'm not a big fan of Letro.You can run Nolv at 20 mgs Ed.You see some symptoms,bump the dose slightly til they subside.

~Pinnacle~
11-18-2005, 10:29 AM
USMCSS

I don't see a dosage description on the Tamox. How much should I order to get me through one cycle?
11-18-2005, 10:37 AM
Pinnacle

Quote:

Originally Posted by USMCSS

I don't see a dosage description on the Tamox. How much should I order to get me through one cycle?

One bottle will be enough.It's dosed at 20mg/ml.

~Pinnacle~
11-18-2005, 10:52 AM
USMCSS

Right on. One more Q.

Since I'm running the cyp twice a week at 1cc per dose (that is 300mg, right?) I'll use up the bottle twice as fast and the cyp will be gone within 5 weeks. So, my question is, can I immediately follow up the cyp with the Test E at the same dose???
11-18-2005, 10:56 AM
Pinnacle

Quote:

Originally Posted by USMCSS

Right on. One more Q.

Since I'm running the cyp twice a week at 1cc per dose (that is 300mg, right?) I'll use up the bottle twice as fast and the cyp will be gone within 5 weeks. So, my question is, can I immediately follow up the cyp with the Test E at the same dose???

Either get more Cyp,or run enanthate and get more of that.But you can switch Test's if you want.I don't like the approach much myself.
11-18-2005, 03:50 PM
USMCSS

If they're so similar, what would be the problem with switch from one to the other?
11-18-2005, 04:02 PM
Pinnacle

Quote:

Originally Posted by USMCSS

If they're so similar, what would be the problem with switch from one to the other?

Like I said,you can.The difference is the heavier ester weight of Cyp,and the 4 days extra it taked to clear your system.Run Cyp first and finish with Enanthate. I just prefer to stick with one long ester Test in my cycle.I don't like to risk plasma blood level peak/valleys.You shouldn't have a problem though.

Good luck-

~Pinnacle~
11-18-2005, 04:07 PM
goose

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Originally Posted by anabolicvenom

Pinnacle is a god, listen to him!!! :7up:

Pinnacle is not god-how rude -he is the DEVIL :evil2: :evil2:

goose4...
11-18-2005, 04:11 PM
Pinnacle

Quote:

Originally Posted by goose4

Pinnacle is not god-how rude -he is the DEVIL :evil2: :evil2:

goose4...

Hmmmmm........no 6's on my body that I can see.So anti christ is out...my girlfriend has called me that on occasion,so it could hold some merit...lol...

~Pinnacle~
11-18-2005, 04:18 PM
goose

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

Hmmmmm........no 6's on my body that I can see.So anti christ is out...my girlfriend has called me that on occasion,so it could hold some merit...lol...

~Pinnacle~

No 666 on you,because it`s always on your head.Get your girlfriend to shave your head.

A man obsessed
is a man posessed
by a demon

goose666..............
11-18-2005, 04:22 PM
Pinnacle

Quote:

Originally Posted by goose4

No 666 on you,because it`s always on your head..

What do you mean it's always on your head?Satan hand out this tattoo like candy or what?More than one person could have this?...lol...Guess we should get Bush and a few others to shave their heads as well.:wg:

~Pinnacle~
11-18-2005, 05:17 PM
goose

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

What do you mean it's always on your head?Satan hand out this tattoo like candy or what?More than one person could have this?...lol...Guess we should get Bush and a few others to shave their heads as well.:wg:

~Pinnacle~

In the bible it states a man will have the mark of the beast on his forehead-666.If you want to learn,the film the Omen is a great film.Only one person will have this mark.It`s either Bush or the punk Blair,practical politics consists in ignoring facts,injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere,which side are you on.Hell is on earth,but lets forget this and just train hard and have fun with are lady`s :wg:

goose4........
11-18-2005, 05:32 PM
Pinnacle

Quote:

Originally Posted by goose4

the mark of the beast on his forehead-666.

goose4........

I thought that was a birth mark....:wg:

J/K....I saw the movie and I'm aware of what was written in the bible.Just foolin' with you.Long as the devil has some good sources when I get there,I'll be content.:wg:

~Pinnacle~
11-18-2005, 06:21 PM
USMCSS

Don't worry....You can count on me being there and I'm pretty sure my source will be so just look me up and give me a jingle on the bone phone!