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    Help on complicated cycle design...

    I am trying to figure out how to take a 16-18 week cycle and do a bulk for most of it and then swith to more of a hardening/cutting cycle at the end. I have a ton of gear right now including all my PCT stuff. I was thinking originally doing something like this:

    Weeks 1-16 test e 750mg
    Weeks 1-15 Deca 500mg
    Weeks 1-4 Anadrol 100mg/day

    I also have:
    70ccs of tren
    50ccs of EQ
    500 10mg Tbol pills


    I was thinking about trying to use the tren and tbol for the last part or something. Please help as I know how to design a bulking cycle, but I have never attempted one of this style thanks.

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    what is your cycle history????? Don't try and cram everything in. why not just go w/ a test/eq/tren cycle w/ some tbol to help kickstart?

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    My first cycle was as follows:
    Weeks 1-12 Test e 500mg
    Weeks 1-5 Dbol 30mg/day

    My second cycle was as follows:
    Weeks 1-16 Test e 625 mg
    Weeks 1-15 EQ 400mg
    Weeks 1-4 Dbol 40mg/day
    Weeks 5-14 Tren A 75mg/day

    I guess my number one goal however is a strength/mass cycle over a hardening cycle if that helps. Thanks.

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    Also I had proper PCT with both cycles. I think I would like to use compounds that are better known for mass, I know diet is most important, but I also know that some compounds are better for certain things. If I use eq this time I am definatley thinking about doing 600mg a week because 400mg a week didnt seem to great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryan9101
    My first cycle was as follows:
    Weeks 1-12 Test e 500mg
    Weeks 1-5 Dbol 30mg/day

    My second cycle was as follows:
    Weeks 1-16 Test e 625 mg
    Weeks 1-15 EQ 400mg
    Weeks 1-4 Dbol 40mg/day
    Weeks 5-14 Tren A 75mg/day

    I guess my number one goal however is a strength/mass cycle over a hardening cycle if that helps. Thanks.
    how mutch pound have you get and keep your 2 cycle total??

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    cycle looks pretty salty. i would run the deca and test for same length. i still don't know what in the hell t-bol is. i keep seein it on these posts. anyways, i'd run 300-400 eq entire cycle and probably tren eod for last 40 days. i'd also run some inj. winstrol eod for the last 40 days. you should get some good gains. 100mg anadrol ? you might want to rethink that one. that's pretty heavy-duty. i'd just make sure you get a little blood work done. good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaulieM.
    cycle looks pretty salty. i would run the deca and test for same length. i still don't know what in the hell t-bol is. i keep seein it on these posts. anyways, i'd run 300-400 eq entire cycle and probably tren eod for last 40 days. i'd also run some inj. winstrol eod for the last 40 days. you should get some good gains. 100mg anadrol? you might want to rethink that one. that's pretty heavy-duty. i'd just make sure you get a little blood work done. good luck
    " i would run the deca and test for same length"

    Suppose to run test longer then deca (1 week normally).

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    I have kept about 25-30 pounds between the last two cycles and I have gone from 12 to 9 percent bf. Any other thoughts?

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    ryan how much did u gain on ur first cycle???

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    Quote Originally Posted by anabolicvenom
    ryan how much did u gain on ur first cycle???
    I gained about 23 pounds my first cycle.

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