Anti E Strategy Confirmation

**tempbrit** · 11-16-2005, 04:47 PM

I am 38 years old, and have cycled before. I am currently 203 and am about 10.5% bodyfat. I am starting the following cycle and wanting to confirm my Anti E strategy.

I will be running HGH throughout the cycle. I will begin the HGH about 1 month before starting the cycle and running for around 7 months at about 2 to 2.5ius using 5/2.

AAS Cycle is as follows:

Weeks 1-14 Test Cyp 700mgs pw
Weeks 2-11 Tren A 75mgs ED
Weeks 8 to PCT Var 60mgs ED

I will begin HCG around week 9 using 500ius two times a week stoping about 5 days prior to PCT.

I will be running Letro as my Anti E strategy about .75-1.25mgs EOD. I will also be using Cabergoline at .5mg every 3.5 days.

It appears to me Nolva would not be needed if I use the Letro and cabergoline during cycle.

For PCT I would use Clomid and Nolva.

anyone have any thoughts. I have tons of Nolva on hand, but seems as though Nolva can cause problems when running Tren.

**groundandpoundpwr21** · 11-16-2005, 06:43 PM

I that dose of tren I dont think youll need the anti p. Letro is real strong so id say the .75. Nolva wont cause problems it just wont doing anything for progesterone sides that come from high doses of tren.

**tempbrit** · 11-16-2005, 08:25 PM

My concern over the Nolva is the fact that it adds to the progesterine receptors or something like that and reduces IGF levels that the HGH is producing. Therefore, from my research it appears that Nolva could negatively impact my HGH and provide nothing from an Anti E standpoint with the AAS.

Would really appreciate some expert advice on this one.

**superfat73** · 11-17-2005, 02:29 AM

damn, good question, any experts in the forum???

**tempbrit** · 11-17-2005, 04:40 PM

Help....Bump.

**tempbrit** · 11-19-2005, 10:27 AM

Anyone ever run a cycle with 700mgs of Test and 75mgs of Tren ED with HGH and only used Letro for Anti-E/Anti-P?

Getting nervous.

**tryingtogetbig** · 11-19-2005, 10:39 AM

I ran a little higher dose of both, and had eq mixed in and only used nolvadex . Also on GH at the same time.

I am just a little bit younger than you and had some bp problems and hdl ldl problems as well on tren . Have you ran it before? just curious.

peace,

ttgb

**powerliftmike** · 11-19-2005, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by tempbrit

My concern over the Nolva is the fact that it adds to the progesterine receptors or something like that and reduces IGF levels that the HGH is producing. Therefore, from my research it appears that Nolva could negatively impact my HGH and provide nothing from an Anti E standpoint with the AAS.

Would really appreciate some expert advice on this one.

I am unsure of the extent, but nolvadex and clomid due lower IGF-I concentrations. On another note remember, nolvadex is not an "anti-e" it is a Selective estrogen receptor modulator (SERM) which is a drug that acts like estrogen on some tissues but blocks the effect of estrogen on other tissues, specifically the breasts.

**taiboxa** · 11-19-2005, 11:16 AM

its negligible and you will be fine no worries take Nolva as needed and take GH as usual...

i really reccommend an AI for Blood pressure issues as well goodluck

**rodge** · 11-19-2005, 12:11 PM

nolva only lowers endo hgh as far as i know,so it should'nt interfere with exo hgh conversion to igf-1. if you wanna play safe then i would go with aromasin .

-rodge

**Froggy** · 11-20-2005, 07:47 AM

Originally Posted by tempbrit

I will be running Letro as my Anti E strategy about .75-1.25mgs EOD. I will also be using Cabergoline at .5mg every 3.5 days.

anyone have any thoughts.

Sounds good to me...IMO, start at the higher levels...you might find that soon into your cycle...you can lower them down...

**TheMudMan** · 11-20-2005, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by tempbrit

I am 38 years old, and have cycled before. I am currently 203 and am about 10.5% bodyfat. I am starting the following cycle and wanting to confirm my Anti E strategy.

I will be running HGH throughout the cycle. I will begin the HGH about 1 month before starting the cycle and running for around 7 months at about 2 to 2.5ius using 5/2.

AAS Cycle is as follows:

Weeks 1-14 Test Cyp 700mgs pw
Weeks 2-11 Tren A 75mgs ED
Weeks 8 to PCT Var 60mgs ED

I will begin HCG around week 9 using 500ius two times a week stoping about 5 days prior to PCT.

I will be running Letro as my Anti E strategy about .75-1.25mgs EOD. I will also be using Cabergoline at .5mg every 3.5 days.

It appears to me Nolva would not be needed if I use the Letro and cabergoline during cycle.

For PCT I would use Clomid and Nolva.

anyone have any thoughts. I have tons of Nolva on hand, but seems as though Nolva can cause problems when running Tren.

This is correct. Letro will stop a large percentage of aromatization and the cab will stop prolactin levels to build and cause problems. Also the cabergoline will give a good increase in libido, this will be good because letro has been know to kill it for some users. You can also run the cabergoline through PCT as well.

**ODC0717** · 11-20-2005, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by tempbrit

I am 38 years old, and have cycled before. I am currently 203 and am about 10.5% bodyfat. I am starting the following cycle and wanting to confirm my Anti E strategy.

I will be running HGH throughout the cycle. I will begin the HGH about 1 month before starting the cycle and running for around 7 months at about 2 to 2.5ius using 5/2.

AAS Cycle is as follows:

Weeks 1-14 Test Cyp 700mgs pw
Weeks 2-11 Tren A 75mgs ED
Weeks 8 to PCT Var 60mgs ED

I will begin HCG around week 9 using 500ius two times a week stoping about 5 days prior to PCT.

I will be running Letro as my Anti E strategy about .75-1.25mgs EOD. I will also be using Cabergoline at .5mg every 3.5 days.

It appears to me Nolva would not be needed if I use the Letro and cabergoline during cycle.

For PCT I would use Clomid and Nolva.

anyone have any thoughts. I have tons of Nolva on hand, but seems as though Nolva can cause problems when running Tren.

I'm digin the cyle. Since everyone's confirmed what you thought, I figured I'd put this info here because it's relavent to the issue at hand and it seems that is would kill two birds with one stone.

Anabolic Review Profile: Falsodex (Fulvestrant)

Something to think about in the future...

**almostgone** · 11-20-2005, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by TheMudMan

This is correct. Letro will stop a large percentage of aromatization and the cab will stop prolactin levels to build and cause problems. Also the cabergoline will give a good increase in libido, this will be good because letro has been know to kill it for some users. You can also run the cabergoline through PCT as well.

...I would definitely run the dostinex through PCT..

AG

**tempbrit** · 11-20-2005, 02:35 PM

Thanks for the input. I will definatlely keep the Dostinex close at hand right through PCT.

I guess a bit of Nolva would not kill the IGF levels all that much. Thanks for confirming.