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    Sust d-bol cycle?

    I was thinking od doing it like this:
    w1-4 d-bol @ 30mg ED
    w1-10 sust @ 250mg a week
    +clomid and something else at the end like winny.

    Question is:
    Is 250mg of sust a week/10 weeks for a first cycle too low a dose?

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    i think that 250-300 would be the min.

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    yes too low do 500mg for 8 to 10 weeks and remember the sus works about 3 weeks in system after last shot so wait 3 weeks to start clomid

    you would get gains off the 250mg but would notice a big difference off 500mg and really up your gains.

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    250mg a week of testosterone is not too for a first cycle IMO. But if you are going to do only 250mg a week, drop the Sustanon and use a long-acting single ester like Test. Enathate or Test. Cypionate . Sustanon's blend of 4 test. esters makes it notoriously hard to keep even blood levels.

    If you choose to use 500mg a week, that is fine. Test. En/Cyp is still a better choice, but your blood levele will be relatively smooth with Sustanon if you inject it 2X weekly.

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    Is this your first cycle? You'll see decent results at 250mg but 500mg is the ideal dose for most novice and intermediate users.

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    Originally posted by EXCESS
    Is this your first cycle? You'll see decent results at 250mg but 500mg is the ideal dose for most novice and intermediate users.
    Yes it is my first and I've changed my mind so many times on what to start with.
    I thought sust was better than t-200, it says it's better bang for the buck on the steroid profiles, it even says it's active one day after first shot.
    Cash is limited and I wanted to see how I react to test first too.

    What if I taper in and out the cycle?
    w1-2 sust @ 250mg
    w3-6 sust @ 500mg
    w7-8 sust @ 250mg

    Would this be better than 10 weeks @ 250mg?
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    for me t200 is my test of choice,if money is limited go with 500mgs of t200.. just my two cents

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    That was similiar to my first cycle. Of course I did not have the benefit of the knowledgable members of the board at that time.

    I just started my second cycle and with all I have learned I upped my dosages. I am doing 600mg of Sust and 400mg of EQ (Boldenon) a week. We shall see what the results are in 10 weeks!

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    i finished that cycle about a 3 months ago i was running the dbol at 35mg ed and the sust at 500mg aweek my diet was up 2 scratch and i ended up quite dissapointed gained about 15lbs and kept about 8lbs alot of it was water next time im going to add deca

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    w1-2 sust @ 250mg
    w3-6 sust @ 500mg
    w7-8 sust @ 250mg

    Would this be better than 10 weeks @ 250mg?

    or could I just do 6 weeks @ 500mg?

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    no do not taper
    for a cycle to work properly you want to front load for the first 1 or 2 weeks then run an even dose till end---taper has been proven not to work---also sus is a self tappering drug

    IF DOING SUS ALONE
    the best way for you is to hit 750mg (3 amps) week 1
    then hit 500mg (2 amps) per week for 7 weeks
    wait 3 weeks then start clomid

    IF DOING DBOL WITH IT
    then do 500mg (2 amps) for 8 weeks(or 10)
    and do dbol at 30mg per days weeks 1-4
    still wait 3 weeks after sus and start clomid

    this would be a good beginner cycle

    check out mine from about a week ago
    750mg sus/omni per week 8 weeks
    400mg per week deca 8 weeks
    25mg per day dbol weeks 1-3
    15-20mg per day dbol am only weeks 11- 14 with clomid starting week 11 for 2 weeks and then dbol beyond for 4 more weeks

    this is a small bridge --am dbol does not shut down system and allows natural release of own hormones at night---this gives a small anabolic effect and allows you to keep more gains

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    Well I would say do 500mg of sus. THat is what I am doin now. And most people say that tampering is no good. Not proven to work. So 500mg is good.. Good luck with your cycle. I started mine today

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    Originally posted by Billmister
    Well I would say do 500mg of sus. THat is what I am doin now. And most people say that tampering is no good. Not proven to work. So 500mg is good.. Good luck with your cycle. I started mine today
    I agree with Bill...550mg of Sus is a good doseage. You will get some good gains from 250 but 500 will really give some outstanding results, 250 is really just giving you a boost .

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    thanks guys but what about running it for 6 weeks, is it too little time to run the sust or should it be at least 8 weeks?

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    8 to 10 weeks

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