what pin size to draw with?

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11-20-2005, 07:50 PM
operationgetbig

what pin size to draw with?

i plan on using 25g 1" syringes on my quads...can i draw the juice from the amp with a 25g needle or should i use a 22 or 23 gauge needle then switch the needle to a 25g and shoot with that? is it easier to draw with a 22g then a 25g?
11-20-2005, 07:58 PM
BG

I use 19
11-20-2005, 08:07 PM
chest6

18 or 20. I draw w/ a 25 to shoot my friend and it takes so damn long. I keep telling him to buy 18's or 20's from arr but hes being lazy..
11-20-2005, 08:17 PM
topvega

i draw with 21g... i don't like the holes 18's seem to leave in the stopper....
11-20-2005, 08:19 PM
Testsubject

18 to draw, and 22 to shoot, shooting with a 25 is a bitch, it takes so long to get the juice out.
11-20-2005, 08:33 PM
operationgetbig

damn i should of posted this earlier...i jus order 50 23g 1.5" syringes with 50 23g 1.5" needles and 50 25g 1" syringes with 50 25g 1" needles...i guess i'll have to make another order and jus have 100 extra needles lyin around
11-20-2005, 08:36 PM
operationgetbig

ARR sells 18g 1.5 in...this would be fine right?...jus wanna make sure before i order 100 of em
11-20-2005, 08:41 PM
Testsubject

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Originally Posted by operationgetbig

ARR sells 18g 1.5 in...this would be fine right?...jus wanna make sure before i order 100 of em

For drawing, yes.
11-20-2005, 08:44 PM
operationgetbig

ok glad i got this covered...my friends were drawing with 22g from sust amps and said it was a bitch sometimes to draw...plus they reused the needle too...but they'll be happy when i tell them i got 100 18g needles...thanks for the help...i was hesitant about asking this cause i always thought u drew with the size of what u are shooting w/.
11-20-2005, 08:52 PM
TheMudMan

18 gauge tear the rubber up on the vials........ you will end up with nice big holes where some of the rubber will be in the vial or the oil will seep out of the top of the vial.

20g works fine........ doesn't tear up the rubber and it's big enough to draw up the oil without any problems.
11-20-2005, 08:58 PM
operationgetbig

ok. theye gonna be for amps so then 18g would be arite then
11-20-2005, 08:59 PM
TheMudMan

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Originally Posted by operationgetbig

ok. theye gonna be for amps so then 18g would be arite then

LOL........ yep
11-20-2005, 09:13 PM
Testsubject

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Originally Posted by TheMudMan

18 gauge tear the rubber up on the vials........ you will end up with nice big holes where some of the rubber will be in the vial or the oil will seep out of the top of the vial.

20g works fine........ doesn't tear up the rubber and it's big enough to draw up the oil without any problems.

Not saying this isnt true, but I have never encountered this problem, as long as you keep them right side up there shouldnt be an issue, either way 18 or 20 will work just fine.
11-20-2005, 09:22 PM
anabolicvenom

Lets say im shooting 2cc in my glute, is it ok to draw and shoot with the 23 or is that unsafe???
11-20-2005, 09:25 PM
juststartin

Quote:

Originally Posted by operationgetbig

i plan on using 25g 1" syringes on my quads...can i draw the juice from the amp with a 25g needle or should i use a 22 or 23 gauge needle then switch the needle to a 25g and shoot with that? is it easier to draw with a 22g then a 25g?

if you have "single serve" 1cc amp, just pull out the plunger and dump it in the back of the syringe, but if it is a 10cc bottle use an 18g
11-20-2005, 09:26 PM
Testsubject

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Originally Posted by anabolicvenom

Lets say im shooting 2cc in my glute, is it ok to draw and shoot with the 23 or is that unsafe???

It's not unsafe its just that the needle wont be a sharpe and go in as easy. Poking through rubber stopers and scraping along the bottom of an amp dulls the needle.
11-20-2005, 09:30 PM
TheMudMan

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Originally Posted by Testsubject

Not saying this isnt true, but I have never encountered this problem, as long as you keep them right side up there shouldnt be an issue, either way 18 or 20 will work just fine.

What if they fall over? Shit happens.

But if the 18g is big enough to cause thatproblem don't you think it could be allowing other impurities in as well........ Solve the problem is to go with a smaller gausge (20g)... JMO
11-20-2005, 09:30 PM
anabolicvenom

alright cool thanks
11-20-2005, 09:32 PM
topvega

Quote:

Originally Posted by juststartin

if you have "single serve" 1cc amp, just pull out the plunger and dump it in the back of the syringe, but if it is a 10cc bottle use an 18g

Do u actually dump the amp into the syringe?
11-20-2005, 09:36 PM
operationgetbig

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Originally Posted by topvega

Do u actually dump the amp into the syringe?

same question?
11-20-2005, 09:53 PM
TheMudMan

Quote:

Originally Posted by topvega

Do u actually dump the amp into the syringe?

No, break the top of the amp and draw with a drawing pin.
11-20-2005, 10:06 PM
topvega

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Originally Posted by TheMudMan

No, break the top of the amp and draw with a drawing pin.

lol... :wg: I know this but I want to know if there is actually someone out there who wld try this..... I figured he was joking
11-20-2005, 10:27 PM
hardrock3

draw with an 18ga, shoot glutes with a 23. all can be done one handed
11-20-2005, 10:50 PM
Juicy Sauce

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Originally Posted by hardrock3

draw with an 18ga, shoot glutes with a 23. all can be done one handed

draw with 18g one handed? please explain
11-21-2005, 05:55 AM
TheMudMan

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Originally Posted by topvega

lol... :wg: I know this but I want to know if there is actually someone out there who wld try this..... I figured he was joking

:lol: ya know I have heard it all being here so I thought it was a question........ someone must have done it that way but I really hope not though :wg:
11-21-2005, 02:41 PM
ironfist

I draw with a 20g and shoot with a 23 or 25...
11-21-2005, 02:46 PM
shortie

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheMudMan

18 gauge tear the rubber up on the vials........ you will end up with nice big holes where some of the rubber will be in the vial or the oil will seep out of the top of the vial.

20g works fine........ doesn't tear up the rubber and it's big enough to draw up the oil without any problems.

Worse than this, you can(I know, it happened to me) wind up with large chunks of rubber stopper either in the syringe or in the vial. The difference in time between loading with a 20/21 and an 18 is negligible and I guarantee it is far more time saving than trying to explain to emergency room personnel how you got a chunk or rubber stopper in your ass.