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Is it a good or bad idea for cutting?!
Week1-6
Anavar 30mg
Tbol 30mg
And maybe some clenbuterol also?
28 years old
6'1
225 lbs
11% BF
Been training serious for 4 years
Benchpress 300lbs
Chins 28
I have done one cycle before with anavar for 5 weeks 40mg/ED+ Clenbuterol with great results.
Two 17aa s ran together is not a good practice. You need a test ester as your base.
I know it will be hard on the liver but most cycles i have seen with orals(winstrol, anavar..) are always 50mg+ if you want some good results. So this cycle isnt harder than any other oral cycle!?Quote:
01dragonslayer Two 17aa s ran together is not a good practice. You need a test ester as your base
The dosage on both aas are to low:
t-bol 50mgs ed 6-8 w
var 50mgs ed 6-8 w
In this cycle you should consider taking primo instead of var, since it wont stress your liver.
Then either run 60mg of var OR 60mg of tbol....one or the other....not both.....and run prop as your base.Quote:
Originally Posted by fitnessman-
Test is not needed in this cycle. T-bol/var wont shut you down completely but test will!
Maybe not completely but his libido could suffer. IMO test should be base of every cycle not only to keep your sex drive but because of its awesome synergistic properties....it compliments everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by vitor
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Originally Posted by 01dragonslayer
i agree this will more than likely kill his sex drive,that is why i personally would run test with it,but if he dosent mind not havin a boner or he is celebate then it wont bother him too much. :wg:
That makes no senceQuote:
Originally Posted by 01dragonslayer
whats the difference in that or running 30mg of both ? Liver wise
This is a case when you can run two orals together.Orals like anadrol Dbol and winny tabs are best taken alone,however, these two are mild on the liver.The rule is the total 17aa intake does not exceed 100mgs ED.Tbol increases libido and appetite,whereas,Var decreases both.If you run Var at 30 it has minimal effect on libido.Run the Tbol 60-70mgs,runs great with next to nothing sides.
goose4..........
Leave the tbol home and go with anavar 60mg for 6-8weeks.
What brand is your stuff?
40 tbol 40 var 5 weeks is what I say.
Running the 2 orals may not be too liver toxic, although u should keep an eye on your lipids (cholesterol)
Mine went extremely bad after 6 weeks at 60mg on tbol. Other bro's have had similar experinces using var and other orals.
First of all its sense not sence. Second...how would you know it doesn't make sense?? Running more of one hormone will yield better gains and in essence will be a more effective cycle than running two at minmal doses.Quote:
Originally Posted by james21
Yes maybe they are synergetic ? Have you run them bothQuote:
Originally Posted by 01dragonslayer
Logic would tell you....
Var at 30mg/ED = minimal gains from var
Tbol at 30mg/ED = minimal gains from tbol
60mg var/ed cycled with 75-100mg prop/ed will yield far better gains.
I have cycled winny at 25mg/ED along with var at 25mg/ED and was very disappointed. Var at 50mg/ED was much more effective.
He is CORRECT--he is referring to SYNERGISM.
The sum of the two is greater than either INDIVIDUALLY--this is known as SYNERGISM.
I have personally ran a Turinabol/Anavar stack for BULKING and it was INCREDIBLE. I have also used it for cutting.
This stack does NOT NEED TEST! Adding test will SHUT HIM DOWN. Neither Turinabol OR anavar will have a significant effect on his Pituitary or TESTICLES. Furthermore, Turinabol increases libido.
See my thread titled: Anavar + Turinabol ULTIMATE STACK!
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Thanks! That answered a lot of my thoughts and questions!Quote:
Anabolic Power He is CORRECT--he is referring to SYNERGISM.
The sum of the two is greater than either INDIVIDUALLY--this is known as SYNERGISM.
I have personally ran a Turinabol/Anavar stack for BULKING and it was INCREDIBLE. I have also used it for cutting.
This stack does NOT NEED TEST! Adding test will SHUT HIM DOWN. Neither Turinabol OR anavar will have a significant effect on his Pituitary or TESTICLES. Furthermore, Turinabol increases libido.
See my thread titled: Anavar + Turinabol ULTIMATE STACK!
cut with winstrol and clenbuterol, i dont think test will be good, because itll make you bulkier while your tryin to get ripped.
Doesn't this guy ever go away? :aajack:Quote:
Originally Posted by Anabolic Power
wait...what?!? everytime i've been on var i've been so hungry i could eat a human!Quote:
Originally Posted by goose4
This is completely false. No wonder you got your ass banned! Just 15mg var/day will reduce endogenous T levels by 25% in just 5 days and will cause 100% suppression in 20 days. I believe that tbol is even more suppressive than var.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anabolic Power
Sorry if this is a stupid question but what exactly is Tbol??
If you can't figure it out by reading this thread then you shouldn't be using AAS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyrone_Biggums
UmmmmmmmmmmmQuote:
Originally Posted by notanormalgent
Who said I was using???? :icon_roll
oral turinabol mate
That statement is completely false. There is no way a var-only cycle will cause 100% shutdown, not even 50%.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyByU
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Originally Posted by vitor
Great info here :haha: :haha:
I ran Var only for 4 months at 100mgs ED,did not get shut down 100%.However,it is possible at crazy doeses for a very long period.
goose4.............
I am currently taking tbol and winny and I feel great. Im only in my second week, I also take liv52 and some milk thistle..
50 mg ed TBol
50 mg ed Winny