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    alcohols effect on steroids

    what effect does drinking alcohol have on the body with AS use? does it diminish gains, i know it cant be good for the liver, but what effect on gains does it have?

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    I think moderation is going to be the key. Alcohol is not on top of the diet plan for bodybuilders. I do not think the extra bad caleries will do you any good. JMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by texasaggie05
    what effect does drinking alcohol have on the body with AS use? does it diminish gains, i know it cant be good for the liver, but what effect on gains does it have?

    if u decide to drink on cycle use your head... moderation and hydration... try drinking a bottle of water for every drink u have... if u drink enough to have a hangover the next day that's bad... u will feel like shit and training and diet etc will suffer as well as your liver....

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    raises your estrogen levels=not good for muscle.

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    alochol increases aromatase production and puts strain on the liver. It also impairs insulin sensitivity.

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    alochol raises estrogen and lowers testosterone ! Bad news!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vitor
    alochol raises estrogen and lowers testosterone! Bad news!!!
    But it is fun!

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    i do have a little drink on cycle but try not to over do it - only once a week

    one thing i noticed is that for some reason i could handle more booze while on and would never get drunk

    now that i am off cycle i'll drink the same amount and i'm hammered

    anyone else experience this? or is it just my imagination

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    maybe but the hangovers kill me while on... really!

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    If I have too many drinks while on a lot of test - I'll retain a lot of water...

    Aside from that, moderation is key - and being intoxicated at all will hinder gains. If your body is tied up filtering alcohol out of your blood - its deffinitly not going to help things...

    I don't drink much at all these days... sometimes a Corona or two but haven't been drunk in a long time...

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    the biggest problem with alcohol is that it raises estrogen levels. i also dont like all the excess calories it has. so many times il wake up after a night of drinking, and wish that i had gotten the extra 4-5 thousand calories from oatmeal. regardless though, i like drinking too much to give it up completely

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Force
    i do have a little drink on cycle but try not to over do it - only once a week

    one thing i noticed is that for some reason i could handle more booze while on and would never get drunk

    now that i am off cycle i'll drink the same amount and i'm hammered

    anyone else experience this? or is it just my imagination
    it just depends on what mood im in. if im not feeling the bar scene than i tend to not get very drunk. if its a good time then i get pretty ****ed. i just feel that it all depends on the place and time

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    lately, since i've come off cycle ive been getting so fcuked up on booze and blacking out, not remembering a thing - not on purpose it just happens suddenly without warning - one minute i'm fine next minute i've woken up on a bus about 40miles from my house

    its scary - definitely am gonna cut down

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    its just kinda hard to not drink....im a bartender, and a college student...i try to keep it in moderation also, i drink twice a week. G-Force: yea i noticed that too when im on cycle i can drink more. last night was a perfect example...so drinking raises estrogen huh? thats no good...

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Force
    lately, since i've come off cycle ive been getting so fcuked up on booze and blacking out, not remembering a thing - not on purpose it just happens suddenly without warning - one minute i'm fine next minute i've woken up on a bus about 40miles from my house

    its scary - definitely am gonna cut down
    good idea.....

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    I also remember reading somewhere that alcohol decreases protein synthesis.. Here is a quote I just found:

    "..it appears that alcohol use inhibits muscular protein synthesis. In fact, this inhibitory effect of alcohol is most pronounced in fast muscle fibers, especially after prolonged use. The scenario would be detrimental for any athlete trying to gain muscle mass and strength through training. After all, isn't the goal of training to increase muscle protein synthesis.."

    As to the facts on this statement, I am not sure. But it is enough to keep me away from drinking when I plan on cycling.

    This particular blurb was pulled from:

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/criticalbench13.htm

    Half way down, "Alcohol & Muscle Growth"

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Force
    lately, since i've come off cycle ive been getting so fcuked up on booze and blacking out, not remembering a thing - not on purpose it just happens suddenly without warning - one minute i'm fine next minute i've woken up on a bus about 40miles from my house

    its scary - definitely am gonna cut down
    MUST HAVE BEEN A REALLY GOOD NIGHT!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWizyrd
    I also remember reading somewhere that alcohol decreases protein synthesis.. Here is a quote I just found:

    "..it appears that alcohol use inhibits muscular protein synthesis. In fact, this inhibitory effect of alcohol is most pronounced in fast muscle fibers, especially after prolonged use. The scenario would be detrimental for any athlete trying to gain muscle mass and strength through training. After all, isn't the goal of training to increase muscle protein synthesis.."

    As to the facts on this statement, I am not sure. But it is enough to keep me away from drinking when I plan on cycling.

    This particular blurb was pulled from:

    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/criticalbench13.htm

    Half way down, "Alcohol & Muscle Growth"
    THIS MIGHT EXPLAIN MOST OF THE GUYS USING GEAR THAT I SEE OUT AT THE BARS LOOKING REALLY SOFT AND NOT AS VASCULAR AS THEY ONCE WERE.

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    estrogen up, testosterone down

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOSS-HOGG
    MUST HAVE BEEN A REALLY GOOD NIGHT!

    nope
    i hate it when that happens - i dont remember anything and usually get into trouble

    doh

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Force
    lately, since i've come off cycle ive been getting so fcuked up on booze and blacking out, not remembering a thing - not on purpose it just happens suddenly without warning - one minute i'm fine next minute i've woken up on a bus about 40miles from my house

    its scary - definitely am gonna cut down

    You sound a true brit,lol.

    goose4..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by goose4
    You sound a true brit,lol.

    goose4..........

    hell yeah

    actually ive calmed down a lot in recent years
    although i do still have my moments

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Force
    hell yeah

    actually ive calmed down a lot in recent years
    although i do still have my moments


    What part of london you from geezer? What moments do you have? Sounds like you were a nutter.

    goose4............

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    Quote Originally Posted by goose4
    What part of london you from geezer? What moments do you have? Sounds like you were a nutter.

    goose4............
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    south london

    no i wasnt too much of a nutter, just had a wee drinking problem amongst other things and used to wake up in hedges (again amongst other things)

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    damn bro, maybe you've done some serious damage to your liver with aas or something. how much alcohol does it take to make you black out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PunkOff
    estrogen up, testosterone down
    anything to back these claims up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by G-Force
    i do have a little drink on cycle but try not to over do it - only once a week

    one thing i noticed is that for some reason i could handle more booze while on and would never get drunk

    now that i am off cycle i'll drink the same amount and i'm hammered

    anyone else experience this? or is it just my imagination

    i believe there is some truth to that: the more water you retain the better you can handle liquor.

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