Whatup fellas, need input on my stack

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11-27-2005, 06:29 PM
Maximo

Whatup fellas, need input on my stack

My stats: 24 years old, 155lbs, max bench 285lbs, experience lifting 6 yrs

My goal: Want to put on about 15lbs of good quality muscle...Cha Cha Ching.

Cycle:

1-8 wk: Andriol-360mg/day
5-8 wk: Proviron-50mg/day
1-8 wk: Anavar--Not certain I'll run this one even though I would like to. None of the pharmacy's in Mexico seem to carry it

PCT will start one day after completion of cycle:

1-4wk: Nolva 20mg/day
1-4wk: Proviron-50mg/day
1-4wk: Vitamin C-1.5g

As an aside, this will be my first cycle. Before drawing baseless conclusions, my situation precludes me from doing injectables.

Concerns that I have: is the duration of the cycle long enough? Is my PCT adequate? Side effects? What is it that I'm going to need to combat any major sides?

Any input would be appreciated. Thank you.
11-27-2005, 06:39 PM
NYC BIG MIKE

You need to elaborate on your situation before one can draw a "based" conclusion then.
11-27-2005, 06:43 PM
Pinnacle

At 155 lbs.I suggest you train longer and get your diet in order.You don't have a good base to work off yet.

~Pinnacle~
11-27-2005, 06:44 PM
Maximo

Basically, I'm a full time student that lives with my girlfriend. My girlfriend is pretty much a "good girl" that would not approve of me doing gear. Thank you.
11-27-2005, 06:44 PM
j martini

I see you have a needle phobia, in other words not ready to cycle. By all acounts by people who have used it andriol is very disapointing
11-27-2005, 06:46 PM
topvega

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maximo

Basically, I'm a full time student that lives with my girlfriend. My girlfriend is pretty much a "good girl" that would not approve of me doing gear. Thank you.

Yeah but what does that have to do with not having a solid base like Pinn said? :scratch:
11-27-2005, 06:49 PM
Maximo

What up Pinnacle,

My diet plan is regimented. Plus, I'm eating around 4000 calories a day. I just need to know if my cycle and pct are legit.
11-27-2005, 06:51 PM
j martini

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maximo

What up Pinnacle,

My diet plan is regimented. Plus, I'm eating around 4000 calories a day. I just need to know if my cycle and pct are legit.

No they are not for the above reasons that i stated.
11-27-2005, 06:52 PM
Maximo

LOL. Needle phobia, that's pretty good, dude. Like I said, I got a significant other that I got to deal with.
11-27-2005, 06:53 PM
Pinnacle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maximo

What up Pinnacle,

My diet plan is regimented. Plus, I'm eating around 4000 calories a day. I just need to know if my cycle and pct are legit.

You obviously need to eat more(at 155).So I doubt your diet is great by any means.

And the cycle is poor,to say the least.

~Pinnacle~
11-27-2005, 06:54 PM
NYC BIG MIKE

Sounds like you have your mind made up and want approval. All orals and no test in your very first cycle? Sorry, but no thumbs up here.
11-27-2005, 06:56 PM
j martini

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maximo

LOL. Needle phobia, that's pretty good, dude. Like I said, I got a significant other that I got to deal with.

Whats the difference between hiding some pills and some amps and syringes.
11-27-2005, 06:56 PM
Pinnacle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maximo

LOL. Needle phobia, that's pretty good, dude. Like I said, I got a significant other that I got to deal with.

Hiding this from your "good girl" could only make matters worse for you.Honesty is the best policy.

~Pinnacle~
11-27-2005, 06:56 PM
Maximo

Pound for pound I'm strong. I've been told that this cycle is good for a beginner. Is that totally incorrect?
11-27-2005, 06:59 PM
Pinnacle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maximo

Pound for pound I'm strong. I've been told that this cycle is good for a beginner. Is that totally incorrect?

Being strong has nothing to do with it.

YES...you are incorrect!!

Try researching,you'll see what we are talking about.

~Pinnacle~
11-27-2005, 07:01 PM
topvega

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maximo

Pound for pound I'm strong. I've been told that this cycle is good for a beginner. Is that totally incorrect?

it's not good for a beginner or anyone else for that matter...
11-27-2005, 07:01 PM
NYC BIG MIKE

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maximo

Pound for pound I'm strong. I've been told that this cycle is good for a beginner. Is that totally incorrect?

in a word..................totally
11-27-2005, 07:02 PM
Maximo

Come on fellas work with me here. I'm not trying to get into a fight with y'all i just need a little bit of expertise from the experts. In short, I think I am looking for approval because this is the one I want to do. Also, I thought Andriol was a tes?
11-27-2005, 07:05 PM
NYC BIG MIKE

Consider what we are saying expertise. Which part do you not understand? It's stinks.
11-27-2005, 07:05 PM
Pinnacle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maximo

Come on fellas work with me here. I'm not trying to get into a fight with y'all i just need a little bit of expertise from the experts. In short, I think I am looking for approval because this is the one I want to do. Also, I thought Andriol was a tes?

NO APPROVAL HERE.......
11-27-2005, 07:06 PM
NYC BIG MIKE

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pinnacle

NO APPROVAL HERE.......

copycat with the big font............. :rolleyes:
11-27-2005, 07:06 PM
Maximo

so what would an expert do to make this perhaps a better cycle? Oh yeah, no one has said anything about my pct plan. Thank you.
11-27-2005, 07:09 PM
NYC BIG MIKE

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maximo

so what would an expert do to make this perhaps a better cycle? Oh yeah, no one has said anything about my pct plan. Thank you.

All those letters above make words. Those words make sentences. Read them, it's chock full of good advice.
11-27-2005, 07:09 PM
Pinnacle

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYC BIG MIKE

copycat with the big font............. :rolleyes:

Nope...just stating my point as I exit this thread.

~Pinnacle~
11-27-2005, 07:09 PM
topvega

http://forums.anabolicreview.com/sho...d.php?t=199828

This points out the problems with Andriol.....
11-27-2005, 07:11 PM
topvega

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maximo

My stats: 24 years old, 155lbs, max bench 285lbs, experience lifting 6 yrs

My goal: Want to put on about 15lbs of good quality muscle...Cha Cha Ching.

Cycle:

1-8 wk: Andriol-360mg/day
5-8 wk: Proviron-50mg/day
1-8 wk: Anavar--Not certain I'll run this one even though I would like to. None of the pharmacy's in Mexico seem to carry it

PCT will start one day after completion of cycle:

1-4wk: Nolva 20mg/day
1-4wk: Proviron-50mg/day
1-4wk: Vitamin C-1.5g

As an aside, this will be my first cycle. Before drawing baseless conclusions, my situation precludes me from doing injectables.

Concerns that I have: is the duration of the cycle long enough? Is my PCT adequate? Side effects? What is it that I'm going to need to combat any major sides?

Any input would be appreciated. Thank you.

We gave our input, but u don't appreciate it.... :wg:
11-27-2005, 07:18 PM
1morerep

at 155lbs your benching 285? thats pretty good imo.
everything that i have learned about gear and cycling has come from this wealth of info from this board, instead of flaming the guy i think some of you could at least steer him in the right direction, i don't mean only his diet, im talking about sharing your first cycle and that might be help enough.
for example; my first cycle 8yrs ago was dbol only it gave me size and strenght of course i lost it when i came off, but from there i did some searches and slowly progressed to test/deca/eq etc.
maxiimo, u said u want to put on 15lbs of lean muscle for your first cycle, imo you want to much to fast, do some searches on this site for diets and beginner cycles. hope this helps.
11-27-2005, 07:26 PM
topvega

I didn't flame anyone... he asked for our input, we gave it... the problem is he wanted our approval of his crappy cycle... and none of us will give it...

If he wants a good first cycle just search for it... it has been listed 1000's of times...
11-27-2005, 07:30 PM
topvega

maximo give this a read.....http://forums.anabolicreview.com/sho...eginner+cycles
11-27-2005, 07:34 PM
Pinnacle

Or this........

http://forums.steroid.com/educational-threads/120894-cycles-newbie.html
11-27-2005, 07:53 PM
Maximo

Sup Sup, Okay so I guess the general consensus is that the cycle I'm thinking about doing seems to be inadequate. But what about my pct, how does it look? What can I add? Thank you.
11-27-2005, 08:00 PM
Pinnacle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maximo

Sup Sup, Okay so I guess the general consensus is that the cycle I'm thinking about doing seems to be inadequate. But what about my pct, how does it look? What can I add? Thank you.

http://forums.steroid.com/pct-post-cycle-therapy/94626-pheednos-pct.html
11-27-2005, 09:16 PM
PunkOff

you cant run all orals. just read the links they just gave you and youll be set.
11-27-2005, 09:58 PM
MrMent1on

You should not be worrying about PCT because you should not be running that cycle. Hard head make soft ass. You are hear to learn by others mistakes. Others mistakes are free, learning by your own mistake will always cost you. if you choose to learn by your own mistake then dont post anything, JUST DO IT. good luck.

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