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    Whatup fellas, need input on my stack

    My stats: 24 years old, 155lbs, max bench 285lbs, experience lifting 6 yrs

    My goal: Want to put on about 15lbs of good quality muscle...Cha Cha Ching.

    Cycle:

    1-8 wk: Andriol -360mg/day
    5-8 wk: Proviron -50mg/day
    1-8 wk: Anavar --Not certain I'll run this one even though I would like to. None of the pharmacy's in Mexico seem to carry it

    PCT will start one day after completion of cycle:

    1-4wk: Nolva 20mg/day
    1-4wk: Proviron-50mg/day
    1-4wk: Vitamin C-1.5g

    As an aside, this will be my first cycle. Before drawing baseless conclusions, my situation precludes me from doing injectables.

    Concerns that I have: is the duration of the cycle long enough? Is my PCT adequate? Side effects? What is it that I'm going to need to combat any major sides?

    Any input would be appreciated. Thank you.

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    You need to elaborate on your situation before one can draw a "based" conclusion then.

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    At 155 lbs.I suggest you train longer and get your diet in order.You don't have a good base to work off yet.

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    Basically, I'm a full time student that lives with my girlfriend. My girlfriend is pretty much a "good girl" that would not approve of me doing gear. Thank you.

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    I see you have a needle phobia, in other words not ready to cycle. By all acounts by people who have used it andriol is very disapointing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximo
    Basically, I'm a full time student that lives with my girlfriend. My girlfriend is pretty much a "good girl" that would not approve of me doing gear. Thank you.

    Yeah but what does that have to do with not having a solid base like Pinn said?

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    What up Pinnacle,

    My diet plan is regimented. Plus, I'm eating around 4000 calories a day. I just need to know if my cycle and pct are legit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximo
    What up Pinnacle,

    My diet plan is regimented. Plus, I'm eating around 4000 calories a day. I just need to know if my cycle and pct are legit.
    No they are not for the above reasons that i stated.

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    LOL. Needle phobia, that's pretty good, dude. Like I said, I got a significant other that I got to deal with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximo
    What up Pinnacle,

    My diet plan is regimented. Plus, I'm eating around 4000 calories a day. I just need to know if my cycle and pct are legit.
    You obviously need to eat more(at 155).So I doubt your diet is great by any means.

    And the cycle is poor,to say the least.


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    Sounds like you have your mind made up and want approval. All orals and no test in your very first cycle? Sorry, but no thumbs up here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximo
    LOL. Needle phobia, that's pretty good, dude. Like I said, I got a significant other that I got to deal with.
    Whats the difference between hiding some pills and some amps and syringes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximo
    LOL. Needle phobia, that's pretty good, dude. Like I said, I got a significant other that I got to deal with.
    Hiding this from your "good girl" could only make matters worse for you.Honesty is the best policy.


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    Pound for pound I'm strong. I've been told that this cycle is good for a beginner. Is that totally incorrect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximo
    Pound for pound I'm strong. I've been told that this cycle is good for a beginner. Is that totally incorrect?
    Being strong has nothing to do with it.


    YES...you are incorrect!!

    Try researching,you'll see what we are talking about.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximo
    Pound for pound I'm strong. I've been told that this cycle is good for a beginner. Is that totally incorrect?
    it's not good for a beginner or anyone else for that matter...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximo
    Pound for pound I'm strong. I've been told that this cycle is good for a beginner. Is that totally incorrect?

    in a word..................totally

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    Come on fellas work with me here. I'm not trying to get into a fight with y'all i just need a little bit of expertise from the experts. In short, I think I am looking for approval because this is the one I want to do. Also, I thought Andriol was a tes?

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    Consider what we are saying expertise. Which part do you not understand? It's stinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximo
    Come on fellas work with me here. I'm not trying to get into a fight with y'all i just need a little bit of expertise from the experts. In short, I think I am looking for approval because this is the one I want to do. Also, I thought Andriol was a tes?

    NO APPROVAL HERE.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinnacle
    NO APPROVAL HERE.......

    copycat with the big font.............

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    so what would an expert do to make this perhaps a better cycle? Oh yeah, no one has said anything about my pct plan. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximo
    so what would an expert do to make this perhaps a better cycle? Oh yeah, no one has said anything about my pct plan. Thank you.
    All those letters above make words. Those words make sentences. Read them, it's chock full of good advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYC BIG MIKE
    copycat with the big font.............
    Nope...just stating my point as I exit this thread.



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    http://forums.anabolicreview.com/sho...d.php?t=199828

    This points out the problems with Andriol .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximo
    My stats: 24 years old, 155lbs, max bench 285lbs, experience lifting 6 yrs

    My goal: Want to put on about 15lbs of good quality muscle...Cha Cha Ching.

    Cycle:

    1-8 wk: Andriol -360mg/day
    5-8 wk: Proviron -50mg/day
    1-8 wk: Anavar --Not certain I'll run this one even though I would like to. None of the pharmacy's in Mexico seem to carry it

    PCT will start one day after completion of cycle:

    1-4wk: Nolva 20mg/day
    1-4wk: Proviron-50mg/day
    1-4wk: Vitamin C-1.5g

    As an aside, this will be my first cycle. Before drawing baseless conclusions, my situation precludes me from doing injectables.

    Concerns that I have: is the duration of the cycle long enough? Is my PCT adequate? Side effects? What is it that I'm going to need to combat any major sides?

    Any input would be appreciated. Thank you.

    We gave our input, but u don't appreciate it....

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    at 155lbs your benching 285? thats pretty good imo.
    everything that i have learned about gear and cycling has come from this wealth of info from this board, instead of flaming the guy i think some of you could at least steer him in the right direction, i don't mean only his diet, im talking about sharing your first cycle and that might be help enough.
    for example; my first cycle 8yrs ago was dbol only it gave me size and strenght of course i lost it when i came off, but from there i did some searches and slowly progressed to test/deca /eq etc.
    maxiimo, u said u want to put on 15lbs of lean muscle for your first cycle, imo you want to much to fast, do some searches on this site for diets and beginner cycles. hope this helps.

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    I didn't flame anyone... he asked for our input, we gave it... the problem is he wanted our approval of his crappy cycle... and none of us will give it...

    If he wants a good first cycle just search for it... it has been listed 1000's of times...

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    Or this........

    Cycles for the Newbie

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    Sup Sup, Okay so I guess the general consensus is that the cycle I'm thinking about doing seems to be inadequate. But what about my pct, how does it look? What can I add? Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maximo
    Sup Sup, Okay so I guess the general consensus is that the cycle I'm thinking about doing seems to be inadequate. But what about my pct, how does it look? What can I add? Thank you.

    Pheedno's PCT

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    you cant run all orals. just read the links they just gave you and youll be set.

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    You should not be worrying about PCT because you should not be running that cycle. Hard head make soft ass. You are hear to learn by others mistakes. Others mistakes are free, learning by your own mistake will always cost you. if you choose to learn by your own mistake then dont post anything, JUST DO IT. good luck.

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